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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
Cc: <akpm@digeo.com>, <hch@infradead.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Avoid vmtruncate/mmap-page-fault race
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:15:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305291915.22235.phillips@arcor.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305291723310.1800-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Thursday 29 May 2003 18:33, you wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2003, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:42:02AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Exactly -- allows a ->nopage() to drop some lock to avoid races
> > > between pagefault and either vmtruncate() or invalidate_mmap_range().
> > > This race (from the cross-host mmap viewpoint) is described in:
> > >
> > >     http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105286345316249&w=2
> >
> > Rediffed for 2.5.70-mm1.
>
> Me?  I much preferred your original, much sparer, nopagedone patch
> (labelled "uglyh as hell" by hch).

"me too".

The fat patch that hits every fs to get rid of two lines and .5 cycles per 
no_page fault could be an epilogue (if/when it passes muster) to the little 
one that does the job and has already been thoroughly tested.

I see both sides of the argument.  The third side, not yet discussed, is the 
value of doing things incrementally, with widespread testing of the system at 
each step.

Regards,

Daniel


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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
Cc: akpm@digeo.com, hch@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Avoid vmtruncate/mmap-page-fault race
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:15:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305291915.22235.phillips@arcor.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305291723310.1800-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Thursday 29 May 2003 18:33, you wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2003, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:42:02AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Exactly -- allows a ->nopage() to drop some lock to avoid races
> > > between pagefault and either vmtruncate() or invalidate_mmap_range().
> > > This race (from the cross-host mmap viewpoint) is described in:
> > >
> > >     http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105286345316249&w=2
> >
> > Rediffed for 2.5.70-mm1.
>
> Me?  I much preferred your original, much sparer, nopagedone patch
> (labelled "uglyh as hell" by hch).

"me too".

The fat patch that hits every fs to get rid of two lines and .5 cycles per 
no_page fault could be an epilogue (if/when it passes muster) to the little 
one that does the job and has already been thoroughly tested.

I see both sides of the argument.  The third side, not yet discussed, is the 
value of doing things incrementally, with widespread testing of the system at 
each step.

Regards,

Daniel

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-29 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-23 18:42 [RFC][PATCH] Avoid vmtruncate/mmap-page-fault race Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-23 18:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-29 15:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-29 15:14   ` Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-29 15:18   ` [RFC][PATCH] Remove LINUX_2_2 Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-29 15:18     ` Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-29 16:33   ` [RFC][PATCH] Avoid vmtruncate/mmap-page-fault race Hugh Dickins
2003-05-29 16:33     ` Hugh Dickins
2003-05-29 17:15     ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2003-05-29 17:15       ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-29 17:39       ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-29 17:39         ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-29 20:24         ` Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-29 20:24           ` Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-30  2:38     ` Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-30  2:38       ` Paul E. McKenney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-17 18:21 [RFC][PATCH] vm_operation to avoid pagefault/inval race Daniel Phillips
2003-05-17 19:49 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-20  1:23   ` Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-20  8:11     ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-23 14:35       ` [RFC][PATCH] Avoid vmtruncate/mmap-page-fault race Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-23 14:35         ` Paul E. McKenney
2003-05-23 16:21         ` Hugh Dickins
2003-05-23 16:21           ` Hugh Dickins
2003-05-23 17:10           ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-23 17:10             ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-23 17:47             ` Hugh Dickins
2003-05-23 17:47               ` Hugh Dickins

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