From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>
Cc: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>,
Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>,
Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Input issues - key down with no key up
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:22:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030821132222.GA28416@mail.jlokier.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030821144835.B3480@pclin040.win.tue.nl>
Andries Brouwer wrote:
> > > But for programs which want to monitor a key and know its state
> > > continuously (this presently includes the software autorepeater, but
> > > it also includes games), none of the behaviours is right.
> >
> > X11 is another example of software that wants to know the state of keys
> > continuously. And that's not a piece of software to ignore easily.
>
> You are both inventing the situation that games, or X11, ask the kernel
> for a bitmap of pressed keys. But they don't. The mechanism doesn't
> even exist.
I have no idea what X wants. What non-X "action" games want is simple
(I have written a few): to know when the user is pushing particular keys.
Those games achieve this by observing a DOWN event when a key is
pressed, an UP when it is released, to change their knowledge of a key
state, and ignoring events which don't change their knowledge of the
state: auto-repeat DOWN events or spurious UP events.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-08-21 13:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-15 5:16 Input issues - key down with no key up Neil Brown
2003-08-15 7:46 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-15 10:58 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 12:36 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-15 12:43 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 13:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 13:52 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 14:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 15:05 ` Jason Lunz
2003-08-15 13:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 13:10 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 13:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 13:53 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-16 13:02 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-16 14:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-17 21:54 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-18 12:22 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-18 10:29 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-19 13:04 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-19 17:48 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 11:37 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 12:44 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 13:45 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 14:28 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 14:38 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 13:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21 14:08 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 14:14 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-21 14:33 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 14:44 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 15:03 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 15:29 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-16 13:01 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-15 12:46 ` Neil Brown
2003-08-15 12:54 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 13:52 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-15 14:13 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-16 7:57 ` Neil Brown
2003-08-18 16:01 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-19 11:40 ` Neil Brown
2003-08-19 11:50 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-19 23:59 ` Neil Brown
2003-08-20 22:36 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-20 22:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-20 23:52 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 0:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21 0:33 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 1:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21 8:08 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-21 8:06 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-21 11:40 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 12:48 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 13:22 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2003-08-21 13:29 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 8:01 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-22 0:27 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-22 7:33 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-25 4:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-25 8:22 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-25 19:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 8:06 ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-22 13:35 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-16 15:15 John Bradford
2003-08-18 11:53 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-19 19:37 John Bradford
2003-08-19 23:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-20 5:59 John Bradford
2003-08-20 15:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21 12:11 John Bradford
2003-08-21 12:26 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-23 12:30 Norman Diamond
2003-08-25 4:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-25 12:15 ` Norman Diamond
2003-08-25 8:45 John Bradford
2003-08-25 12:47 John Bradford
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