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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>
Cc: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>,
	Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Input issues - key down with no key up
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:48:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030821134854.GA28593@mail.jlokier.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1030821125736.2489B-100000@delta.ds2.pg.gda.pl>

Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> > My laptop has function buttons that bring me to a setup menu where
> > I can set various timeouts related to power saving. These built-in
> > menus react to translated scancode Set 2 only. There is no way to get
> > out if one first chooses Set 3.

Perhaps the BIOS is listening for translated set 2 scancodes.  Maybe some
different keys would have the power saving functions in other modes?

>  Actually the spec is a standard and standard hardware performs as
> expected (e.g. hardware released by IBM).  The rest is non-standard and if
> a manufacturer claims PS/2-compliance for any of these items, then he
> lies. 

The user doesn't care if it's PS/2 compliant or not.  It must work,
that is the only important thing.  Even more so, given it is flawless

>  Note the translation is done outside the keyboard -- the onboard 8042
> controller is responsible for it.  And it's an obstacle for normal
> operation, most notably you cannot handle hot-plug events as they are
> undistinguishable from a <Shift> release. 

Perhaps you can detect a keyboard being unplugged by periodically
sending it Echo commands (EE), or any other command to which it responds.

-- Jamie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-08-21 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-15  5:16 Input issues - key down with no key up Neil Brown
2003-08-15  7:46 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-15 10:58   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 12:36     ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-15 12:43       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 13:27         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 13:52           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 14:02             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 15:05         ` Jason Lunz
2003-08-15 13:04       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 13:10         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 13:33           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 13:53             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-16 13:02               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-16 14:09                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-17 21:54                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-18 12:22                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-18 10:29                 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-19 13:04                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-19 17:48                     ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 11:37                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 12:44                         ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 13:45                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 14:28                             ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 14:38                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 13:48                         ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2003-08-21 14:08                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 14:14                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-21 14:33                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 14:44                                 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 15:03                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 15:29                                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-16 13:01             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-15 12:46     ` Neil Brown
2003-08-15 12:54       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 13:52       ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-15 14:13         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-16  7:57           ` Neil Brown
2003-08-18 16:01             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-19 11:40               ` Neil Brown
2003-08-19 11:50                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-19 23:59                   ` Neil Brown
2003-08-20 22:36             ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-20 22:58               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-20 23:52                 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21  0:03                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21  0:33                     ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21  1:36                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21  8:08                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-21  8:06                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-21 11:40                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 12:48                       ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 13:22                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21 13:29                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21  8:01                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-22  0:27                     ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-22  7:33                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-25  4:22                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-25  8:22                           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-25 19:36                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03  8:06                               ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-22 13:35                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-16 15:15 John Bradford
2003-08-18 11:53 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-19 19:37 John Bradford
2003-08-19 23:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-20  5:59 John Bradford
2003-08-20 15:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21 12:11 John Bradford
2003-08-21 12:26 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-23 12:30 Norman Diamond
2003-08-25  4:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-25 12:15   ` Norman Diamond
2003-08-25  8:45 John Bradford
2003-08-25 12:47 John Bradford

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