[parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[mmogenius]

does x support the internal video card in the machine ?

thanks to you help on previous questions i now have everything installed and i 
am a complete newbie... 

Thanks





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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Randolph Chung]

In reference to a message from mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk, dated Aug 26:
> does x support the internal video card in the machine ?

http://pateam.esiee.fr/list.html

randolph
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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Randolph Chung]

(please reply to the list, not to me privately)

In reference to a message from mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk, dated Aug 26:
> do we know if it is possable to add an extra graphics card to the b2000 to 
> usin instead of the internal card ?

the web page tells you that if you get a Vis-EG card it will work. there
are no "built in" graphics cards..  if you have a FX? card in your b2k,
it's a PCI card. (lspci should tell you)

randolph
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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Chuck Slivkoff]

Hi Randolph,

On Tuesday, Aug 26, 2003, at 11:03 US/Eastern, Randolph Chung wrote:

> In reference to a message from mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk, dated Aug 26:
>> do we know if it is possable to add an extra graphics card to the 
>> b2000 to
>> usin instead of the internal card ?
>
> the web page tells you that if you get a Vis-EG card it will work. 
> there
> are no "built in" graphics cards..  if you have a FX? card in your b2k,
> it's a PCI card. (lspci should tell you)

The B2000 does have integrated graphics. It is an FX-e.

-chuck

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Grant Grundler]

On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:30:23PM -0400, Chuck Slivkoff wrote:
> The B2000 does have integrated graphics. It is an FX-e.

"integrated" != "soldered on the motherboard"
"built-in"   ~= "soldered on the motherboard"

ie The Gfx card can be removed and in fact must be remove if one wants
to use the only 66mhz/64-bit PCI slot the B2000/C3000 has.

AFAIK, the B2000/C3000/J5000 systems only have plug-in PCI gfx cards.
At least all the ones I've seen are plug-in.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Chuck Slivkoff]

On Tuesday, Aug 26, 2003, at 23:40 US/Eastern, Grant Grundler wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:30:23PM -0400, Chuck Slivkoff wrote:
>> The B2000 does have integrated graphics. It is an FX-e.
>
> "integrated" != "soldered on the motherboard"
> "built-in"   ~= "soldered on the motherboard"

I've always used these interchangably.

> ie The Gfx card can be removed and in fact must be remove if one wants
> to use the only 66mhz/64-bit PCI slot the B2000/C3000 has.
>
> AFAIK, the B2000/C3000/J5000 systems only have plug-in PCI gfx cards.
> At least all the ones I've seen are plug-in.

The B2000 is an exception. I participated in the Field Review of this  
box ("Kazoo", IIRC) & we have one of these in our lab in Roseville.  
This box was considered a "cheap" alternative to a C3000 with a smaller  
power supply, fewer PCI slots, fewer DIMM slots and integrated (see  
below) graphics. The FX-e is soldered on the motherboard.

 From pg 23 of the B2000 the Owner's Guide:

   Monitor Connector
   The B2000 workstation has an integrated HP VISUALIZE fxe graphics
   chip on the system board. Thus, the monitor connector on the rear  
panel
   of the workstation connects your monitor to this graphics chip on the
   system board.

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/ 
CoreRedirect.jsp?targetPage=http%3A%2F%2Fh200007.www2.hp.com%2Fbc%2Fdocs 
%2Fsupport%2FSupportManual%2Flpv37670%2Flpv37670.pdf

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Grant Grundler]

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:00:59AM -0400, Chuck Slivkoff wrote:
> >"integrated" != "soldered on the motherboard"
> >"built-in"   ~= "soldered on the motherboard"
> 
> I've always used these interchangably.

I normally would too.
I don't anymore for HP products since hearing "factory integration"
regarding plug-in PCI cards.

> The B2000 is an exception. I participated in the Field Review of this  
> box ("Kazoo", IIRC) & we have one of these in our lab in Roseville.  
> This box was considered a "cheap" alternative to a C3000 with a smaller  
> power supply, fewer PCI slots, fewer DIMM slots and integrated (see  
> below) graphics. The FX-e is soldered on the motherboard.

ok - thanks - I've seen the fewer DIMM slots version but didn't
notice the FX-e on the motherboard (or VGA connector on the back).

I have seen a B2000 with 8 DIMM slots and 6 PCI slots like a C3000.
This is no prototype - a real production unit.
I'll have a chance to look more closely at this box again
in the near future and will take some pictures.

thanks for the correction,
grant

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Thibaut VARENE]

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:05:16 -0600
Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote:

 
> ok - thanks - I've seen the fewer DIMM slots version but didn't
> notice the FX-e on the motherboard (or VGA connector on the back).
> 
> I have seen a B2000 with 8 DIMM slots and 6 PCI slots like a C3000.
> This is no prototype - a real production unit.
> I'll have a chance to look more closely at this box again
> in the near future and will take some pictures.
> 

Don't bother, we've got plenty of these boxes @school, I'll take some pics
before students come back ;)


Thibaut VARENE
The PA/Linux ESIEE Team
http://pateam.esiee.fr/

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[mmogenius]

Quoting Thibaut VARENE <varenet@esiee.fr>:

> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:05:16 -0600
> Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> > ok - thanks - I've seen the fewer DIMM slots version but didn't
> > notice the FX-e on the motherboard (or VGA connector on the back).
> > 
> > I have seen a B2000 with 8 DIMM slots and 6 PCI slots like a C3000.
> > This is no prototype - a real production unit.
> > I'll have a chance to look more closely at this box again
> > in the near future and will take some pictures.
> > 
> 
> Don't bother, we've got plenty of these boxes @school, I'll take some pics
> before students come back ;)
> 
> 
> Thibaut VARENE
> The PA/Linux ESIEE Team
> http://pateam.esiee.fr/
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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[mmogenius]

Interesting the veriety iof the same box :-O. I can only find one 
specification on hp's site for the b2000...

so the basics of it is can the b2000 support an additional vga card other then 
the onboard graphics card ? presumabely i need a card that is compatable with 
the box rather then any old card off the shelf ?

of is there more likleyhood that there will be support for this card in x ?

Thanks

Quoting mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk:

> Quoting Thibaut VARENE <varenet@esiee.fr>:
> 
> > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:05:16 -0600
> > Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > > ok - thanks - I've seen the fewer DIMM slots version but didn't
> > > notice the FX-e on the motherboard (or VGA connector on the back).
> > > 
> > > I have seen a B2000 with 8 DIMM slots and 6 PCI slots like a C3000.
> > > This is no prototype - a real production unit.
> > > I'll have a chance to look more closely at this box again
> > > in the near future and will take some pictures.
> > > 
> > 
> > Don't bother, we've got plenty of these boxes @school, I'll take some pics
> > before students come back ;)
> > 
> > 
> > Thibaut VARENE
> > The PA/Linux ESIEE Team
> > http://pateam.esiee.fr/
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> 
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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Grant Grundler]

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:19:49PM +0100, mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> so the basics of it is can the b2000 support an additional vga card
> other then the onboard graphics card?

If a PCI slot is available, I would expect a PCI Vis-EG card to work.

> presumabely i need a card that is compatable with 
> the box rather then any old card off the shelf ?

I think so.

> of is there more likleyhood that there will be support for this card in x ?

PCI Vis-EG + stifb driver works under xf86.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[mmogenius]

Thanks once again

Do you prehaps know how much the card wiull cost me and where i can get one in 
the uk... 

Thanks

Quoting Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>:

> On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:19:49PM +0100, mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> > so the basics of it is can the b2000 support an additional vga card
> > other then the onboard graphics card?
> 
> If a PCI slot is available, I would expect a PCI Vis-EG card to work.
> 
> > presumabely i need a card that is compatable with 
> > the box rather then any old card off the shelf ?
> 
> I think so.
> 
> > of is there more likleyhood that there will be support for this card in x
> ?
> 
> PCI Vis-EG + stifb driver works under xf86.
> 
> grant
> 




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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Grant Grundler]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:05:03AM +0100, mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> do you prehaps have any idea what sort of money the card might cost me?
> and where i could find one in the uk ?

I've never had to buy one.
Check e-bay and/or HP equipment resellers on the net.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[M. Grabert]

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:

> Thanks once again
>
> Do you prehaps know how much the card wiull cost me and where i can get one in
> the uk...

Well, Ebay + "Visualize EG" brings up following result:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/SaleSearch?satitle=Visualize+EG&saavailabletocountry=3&socurrencydisplay=2&ebaytag1code_tmp=3&ebaytag1_tmp=ebayavail&sosortproperty=1&ht=1&from=R10&sorecordsperpage=50&BasicSearch=

All of these three offers are currently below 10 Pound,
but international shipping is quite expensive (one offer says US $25).

I'd say go for it anyway.


Max

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Chuck Slivkoff]

On Wednesday, Aug 27, 2003, at 02:05 US/Eastern, Grant Grundler wrote:

> I have seen a B2000 with 8 DIMM slots and 6 PCI slots like a C3000.
> This is no prototype - a real production unit.

Sounds like a B1000 to me. ;-) Essentially, a C3000 with a slower CPU.

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[mmogenius]

Thanks for the link i am sure i had searched ebay but never got any results 
prehaps i was searching for items in the UK only. 

I presume not thast many people have these boxes over here and there not 
tremendiousaly popular through out ? 

i'll go for the card and get the adaptehr for a normal monitor. Thanks. 
#


Quoting "M. Grabert" <xam@cs.ucc.ie>:

> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> 
> > Thanks once again
> >
> > Do you prehaps know how much the card wiull cost me and where i can get one
> in
> > the uk...
> 
> Well, Ebay + "Visualize EG" brings up following result:
> 
> http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/SaleSearch?
satitle=Visualize+EG&saavailabletocountry=3&socurrencydisplay=2&ebaytag1code_tm
p=3&ebaytag1_tmp=ebayavail&sosortproperty=1&ht=1&from=R10&sorecordsperpage=50&B
asicSearch=
> 
> All of these three offers are currently below 10 Pound,
> but international shipping is quite expensive (one offer says US $25).
> 
> I'd say go for it anyway.
> 
> 
> Max
> 
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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Grant Grundler]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:22:21AM +0100, mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> i'll go for the card and get the adaptehr for a normal monitor.

I think two of the Ebay listings have an error: AFAIK, VIz-EG cards have
an "EVC" connector and not a "DVI" connector. The two connectors look very
similar except the DVI connector has fewer pins.  Have them count pins and
verify before ordering the DVI connector.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Derek Engelhaupt]

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It is most definitely an EVC connector on the EG card....not DVI regardless of what the Ebay listing says.
 
derek

Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote:
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:22:21AM +0100, mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> i'll go for the card and get the adaptehr for a normal monitor.

I think two of the Ebay listings have an error: AFAIK, VIz-EG cards have
an "EVC" connector and not a "DVI" connector. The two connectors look very
similar except the DVI connector has fewer pins. Have them count pins and
verify before ordering the DVI connector.

grant
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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[mmogenius]

Oh dear i ordered the converter but it was only £3 so what the hell i'll see 
if they will swap the converter for another.

with any luck i'll manage to get X on this box.... not critical but damn it 
would be nice. 



Quoting Derek Engelhaupt <derekengelhaupt@rocketmail.com>:

> It is most definitely an EVC connector on the EG card....not DVI regardless
> of what the Ebay listing says.
>  
> derek
> 
> Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:22:21AM +0100, mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> > i'll go for the card and get the adaptehr for a normal monitor.
> 
> I think two of the Ebay listings have an error: AFAIK, VIz-EG cards have
> an "EVC" connector and not a "DVI" connector. The two connectors look very
> similar except the DVI connector has fewer pins. Have them count pins and
> verify before ordering the DVI connector.
> 
> grant
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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Grant Grundler]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:49:19AM -0400, Chuck Slivkoff wrote:
> >I have seen a B2000 with 8 DIMM slots and 6 PCI slots like a C3000.
> >This is no prototype - a real production unit.
> 
> Sounds like a B1000 to me. ;-) Essentially, a C3000 with a slower CPU.

Yes - you are right

thanks,
grant

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[mmogenius]

Ok thanks to everyone i now have the graphics card and it appears to work a 
little better as i now get a nice picture of a penguine in the top left corner 
when i boot tha machine.... although i am not sure what type of card i should 
configure it as under X.... what other ways are there of configuring X other 
then xf86config as it's rather confusing. Thanks



Quoting mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk:

> Thanks for the link i am sure i had searched ebay but never got any results 
> prehaps i was searching for items in the UK only. 
> 
> I presume not thast many people have these boxes over here and there not 
> tremendiousaly popular through out ? 
> 
> i'll go for the card and get the adaptehr for a normal monitor. Thanks. 
> #
> 
> 
> Quoting "M. Grabert" <xam@cs.ucc.ie>:
> 
> > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks once again
> > >
> > > Do you prehaps know how much the card wiull cost me and where i can get
> one
> > in
> > > the uk...
> > 
> > Well, Ebay + "Visualize EG" brings up following result:
> > 
> > http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/SaleSearch?
> 
satitle=Visualize+EG&saavailabletocountry=3&socurrencydisplay=2&ebaytag1code_tm
> 
p=3&ebaytag1_tmp=ebayavail&sosortproperty=1&ht=1&from=R10&sorecordsperpage=50&B
> asicSearch=
> > 
> > All of these three offers are currently below 10 Pound,
> > but international shipping is quite expensive (one offer says US $25).
> > 
> > I'd say go for it anyway.
> > 
> > 
> > Max
> > 
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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Grant Grundler]

On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 06:39:03PM +0100, mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> Ok thanks to everyone i now have the graphics card and it appears to work a 
> little better as i now get a nice picture of a penguine in the top left
> corner when i boot tha machine

that's good

> .... although i am not sure what type of card i should 
> configure it as under X.... what other ways are there of configuring X other 
> then xf86config as it's rather confusing. Thanks

Yes - edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 directly.
You can grab one that works on C3000 with Vis-EG from
	ftp://ftp.parisc-linux.org/kernels/c3000

You will probably have to edit the resolution (eg 1280x1024)
to match what you currently have enabled.

When powering up the computer, hit <TAB> to pick the highest
resolution that works with your monitor/LCD. Then make sure
those are the only values in you XFConfig86-4 file.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[mmogenius]

I have tried this but i am still getting the same error message... 

Fatal server error:
AddScreen/ScreenInit Failed for driver 0 

With me having 2 cards in the machine do i need to specify wich one to use ?

if so where can i get the information to do this as i am not having much luck 
finding any documentation. Thanks



Quoting Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>:

> On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 06:39:03PM +0100, mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> > Ok thanks to everyone i now have the graphics card and it appears to work a
> 
> > little better as i now get a nice picture of a penguine in the top left
> > corner when i boot tha machine
> 
> that's good
> 
> > .... although i am not sure what type of card i should 
> > configure it as under X.... what other ways are there of configuring X
> other 
> > then xf86config as it's rather confusing. Thanks
> 
> Yes - edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 directly.
> You can grab one that works on C3000 with Vis-EG from
> 	ftp://ftp.parisc-linux.org/kernels/c3000
> 
> You will probably have to edit the resolution (eg 1280x1024)
> to match what you currently have enabled.
> 
> When powering up the computer, hit <TAB> to pick the highest
> resolution that works with your monitor/LCD. Then make sure
> those are the only values in you XFConfig86-4 file.
> 
> grant
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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Grant Grundler]

On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 08:03:07PM +0100, mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> I have tried this but i am still getting the same error message... 
> 
> Fatal server error:
> AddScreen/ScreenInit Failed for driver 0 


> With me having 2 cards in the machine do i need to specify wich one to use ?

Maybe. I would expect the default to be the console.
Can you remove one of the cards?

> if so where can i get the information to do this as i am not having much luck 
> finding any documentation. Thanks

Try searching tha parisc-linux mailing list for "ScreenInit Failed".
Plenty of hits on this topic.

If none of the above helps, can you post the full Xfree86.log.0?

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[Joel Soete]

Grant Grundler wrote:

>On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 08:03:07PM +0100, mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
>  
>
>>I have tried this but i am still getting the same error message... 
>>
>>Fatal server error:
>>AddScreen/ScreenInit Failed for driver 0 
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>
>>With me having 2 cards in the machine do i need to specify wich one to use ?
>>    
>>
>
>Maybe. I would expect the default to be the console.
>Can you remove one of the cards?
>  
>
hmm I presume that the first one is the builtin (not removable) gfx 
(which is not supported :( ) and the additional one is supported and 
pluged into a pci slot (so removable but the one usefull)?

Afaik i don't think that it is possible to 'remove' (even logicaly with 
some strap or switch) the builtin gfx.
Anyway, it is possible to change the default monitor to 'graphics1' (as 
afaik here the pdc would recognise the additional gfx) with help of 
COnfiguration submenu at bootprompt. (may be MO cmd would help to get 
more accurate info?)

Or (into linux system) should it be also possible to create a /dev/fb1 
(MAKEDEV iirc) and change with fbset the default fb device to fb1?

>  
>
>>if so where can i get the information to do this as i am not having much luck 
>>finding any documentation. Thanks
>>    
>>
>
>Try searching tha parisc-linux mailing list for "ScreenInit Failed".
>Plenty of hits on this topic.
>
>If none of the above helps, can you post the full Xfree86.log.0?
>
>grant
>
hth,
    Joel

Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[mmogenius]

Brilliant i now have X working on my B2000 with the Visuialize-EG Card... 

The way to use the 2nd card is to specify the BusID in the XF86Config-4 file.

BusID      "PCI:1:1:0"

Although I dont seem to be able to get the depth anywhere above 8... Does 
anyone have any thoughs on this. 

Thanks



> Grant Grundler wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 08:03:07PM +0100, mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>I have tried this but i am still getting the same error message... 
> >>
> >>Fatal server error:
> >>AddScreen/ScreenInit Failed for driver 0 
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>With me having 2 cards in the machine do i need to specify wich one to use
> ?
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Maybe. I would expect the default to be the console.
> >Can you remove one of the cards?
> >  
> >
> hmm I presume that the first one is the builtin (not removable) gfx 
> (which is not supported :( ) and the additional one is supported and 
> pluged into a pci slot (so removable but the one usefull)?
> 
> Afaik i don't think that it is possible to 'remove' (even logicaly with 
> some strap or switch) the builtin gfx.
> Anyway, it is possible to change the default monitor to 'graphics1' (as 
> afaik here the pdc would recognise the additional gfx) with help of 
> COnfiguration submenu at bootprompt. (may be MO cmd would help to get 
> more accurate info?)
> 
> Or (into linux system) should it be also possible to create a /dev/fb1 
> (MAKEDEV iirc) and change with fbset the default fb device to fb1?
> 
> >  
> >
> >>if so where can i get the information to do this as i am not having much
> luck 
> >>finding any documentation. Thanks
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Try searching tha parisc-linux mailing list for "ScreenInit Failed".
> >Plenty of hits on this topic.
> >
> >If none of the above helps, can you post the full Xfree86.log.0?
> >
> >grant
> >
> hth,
>     Joel
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Re: [parisc-linux] x86 on b2000

[M. Grabert]

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 mmogenius@v8fiesta.co.uk wrote:

> Brilliant i now have X working on my B2000 with the Visuialize-EG Card...
>
> The way to use the 2nd card is to specify the BusID in the XF86Config-4 file.
>
> BusID      "PCI:1:1:0"
>
> Although I dont seem to be able to get the depth anywhere above 8... Does
> anyone have any thoughs on this.

Visualize-EG is a 8bit only card.

It can displake 'fake hi/true-colour' using HP's Color Recovery technology,
but hardly any non-HP software supports that (ie. I know only
of ImageMagick).

There is AFAIK no 24/32bit true colour PCI graphic cards that work on
Linux/PA-RISC in the moment. I'd love to hear that I'm wrong ...

Max