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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Gerhard Mack <gmack@innerfire.net>
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: ide-scsi oops was: 2.6.0-test4-mm3
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:52:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030911215216.GM12021@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0309111111150.24179-100000@innerfire.net>

On Thu, Sep 11 2003, Gerhard Mack wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Jens Axboe wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 10 2003, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
> > > That's a real shame ... it seemed to work fine until recently. Some
> > > of the DVD writers (eg the one I have - Sony DRU500A or whatever)
> >
> > Then maybe it would be a really good idea to find out why it doesn't
> > work with ide-cd. What are the symptoms?
> >
> > > need it. Is it unfixable? or just nobody's done it?
> >
> > It's not unfixable, there's just not a lot of motivation to fix it since
> > it's basically dead.
> >
> 
> What about backwards compatability with all of that cd burning software
> out there that only knows to scan the SCSI devices?

That's basically impossible, I don't want to shoe horn atapi numbering
into faked bus,id,lun type things.

So people will just have to get used to the change. And I bet that Joe
user with his cd-r thinks it's a lot more intuitive to use dev=/dev/hdc
(which is his burner) rather than dev=1,0,0 for instance. The scanning
basically helps that case alone, because noone can guess these numbers.

-- 
Jens Axboe


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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Gerhard Mack <gmack@innerfire.net>
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: ide-scsi oops was: 2.6.0-test4-mm3
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:52:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030911215216.GM12021@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0309111111150.24179-100000@innerfire.net>

On Thu, Sep 11 2003, Gerhard Mack wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Jens Axboe wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 10 2003, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
> > > That's a real shame ... it seemed to work fine until recently. Some
> > > of the DVD writers (eg the one I have - Sony DRU500A or whatever)
> >
> > Then maybe it would be a really good idea to find out why it doesn't
> > work with ide-cd. What are the symptoms?
> >
> > > need it. Is it unfixable? or just nobody's done it?
> >
> > It's not unfixable, there's just not a lot of motivation to fix it since
> > it's basically dead.
> >
> 
> What about backwards compatability with all of that cd burning software
> out there that only knows to scan the SCSI devices?

That's basically impossible, I don't want to shoe horn atapi numbering
into faked bus,id,lun type things.

So people will just have to get used to the change. And I bet that Joe
user with his cd-r thinks it's a lot more intuitive to use dev=/dev/hdc
(which is his burner) rather than dev=1,0,0 for instance. The scanning
basically helps that case alone, because noone can guess these numbers.

-- 
Jens Axboe

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-11 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-29  6:56 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Andrew Morton
2003-08-29  6:56 ` 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Andrew Morton
2003-08-29  7:45 ` 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Andrew Morton
2003-08-29  7:45   ` 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Andrew Morton
2003-08-29 15:42 ` 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Ed Sweetman
2003-08-29 15:42   ` 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Ed Sweetman
2003-08-29 15:57   ` 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Andrew Morton
2003-08-29 15:57     ` 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Andrew Morton
2003-08-29 15:59   ` 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-08-29 15:59     ` 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-08-30  1:43 ` OOps in 2.6.0-test4-mm3-1 Mike Fedyk
2003-08-30  3:09   ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-30 17:00     ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-30 23:20     ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-30 23:36       ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-10 18:53 ` 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Mike Fedyk
2003-09-10 18:53   ` 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Mike Fedyk
2003-09-10 18:55   ` ide-scsi oops was: 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Mike Fedyk
2003-09-10 18:55     ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-10 18:43     ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-10 18:43       ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-10 19:10       ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-10 19:10         ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-11 15:24         ` Alan Cox
2003-09-11 15:24           ` Alan Cox
2003-09-10 20:04       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-09-10 20:04         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-09-10 20:35         ` Murray J. Root
2003-09-10 20:53         ` Paul Larson
2003-09-10 20:53           ` Paul Larson
2003-09-10 21:11           ` Sandisk WiFi + CF card question J.C. Wren
2003-09-11  8:20         ` ide-scsi oops was: 2.6.0-test4-mm3 Jens Axboe
2003-09-11  8:20           ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-11 15:12           ` Gerhard Mack
2003-09-11 15:12             ` Gerhard Mack
2003-09-11 21:52             ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2003-09-11 21:52               ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-11 15:27           ` Alan Cox
2003-09-11 15:27             ` Alan Cox
2003-09-11 21:50             ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-11 21:50               ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-11 18:13           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-09-11 18:13             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-09-11 18:30             ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-11 18:30               ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-11 21:52             ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-11 21:52               ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-16  0:34               ` Ian Hastie
2003-09-16  9:20                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-16 18:26                   ` Ian Hastie
2003-09-16 18:58                     ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-17 10:31                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-16 21:41 ` OOps in HFS " Mike Fedyk
2003-09-16 21:41   ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-16 21:40   ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-16 21:40     ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-16 23:59     ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-16 23:59       ` Mike Fedyk

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