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From: Patrick Caulfield <caulfield@sistina.com>
To: linux-lvm@sistina.com
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Drive gone bad, now what?
Date: Tue Oct 28 02:20:02 2003	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031028081933.GA1629@tykepenguin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F9DB7D8.5080502@xs4all.nl>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 01:27:04AM +0100, Gert van der Knokke wrote:
> John Stoffel wrote:
> 
> >Gert> I didn't expect lvm to restore the missing data, I guessed it
> >Gert> would just let me access the rest of the data.
> >
> >At this point, you have to think, how can my filesystem cope with the
> >loss of a 60gb chunk of data in the middle (start or end even) of the
> >300+ gb of data?  There's all sorts of meta-data and true data which
> >is now gone, and re-building the filesystem into a consistent state is
> >really impossible.  
> >
> Hmm, and so I think LVM still needs a warning label :-)
> 
> I wonder why LVM doesn't work the other way around:
> Create filesystems on several disks and then concatenate these to the 
> outside as one large filesystem. This way if one drive goes bad you can 
> always individually mount the drives and use the data.
> 
> >If you are looking for a large/cheap/reliable bunch of storage,
> >instead of mirroring, you might want to think about RAID5 instead.
> >
> No, what we're looking for is an 'expandable as needed' filesystem and 
> this is what LVM pretends to be.

No. LVM does in no way "pretend to be a file system". It's an expandable block
device. What the filesystem does with that block device is up to it. 

If a disk fails and you're not using RAID then you restore from backups.

-- 

patrick

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-28  2:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-17 15:10 [linux-lvm] RAID 1 on Device Mapper - best practices? John Stoffel
2003-10-17 15:29 ` Mike Williams
2003-10-17 15:51   ` John Stoffel
2003-10-17 15:56     ` [linux-lvm] " Måns Rullgård
2003-10-17 16:13     ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Williams
2003-10-22  8:02       ` wopp
2003-10-23 17:52         ` [linux-lvm] Drive gone bad, now what? Gert van der Knokke
2003-10-23 18:59           ` John Stoffel
2003-10-24  0:22             ` Rickard Olsson
2003-10-24 15:23               ` Gert van der Knokke
2003-10-27  8:59                 ` John Stoffel
2003-10-27 18:28                   ` Gert van der Knokke
2003-10-28  2:20                     ` Patrick Caulfield [this message]
2003-10-28 13:52                       ` Gert van der Knokke
2003-10-28 14:14                         ` Jayson Garrell
2003-10-28 14:30                           ` Gert van der Knokke
2003-10-28 15:36                             ` John Stoffel
2003-10-29  8:54                               ` Brian J. Murrell
2003-10-30  8:00                                 ` Petro
2003-11-26 10:15                                   ` Harri Haataja
2003-10-28 16:06                             ` Glen Harris
2003-10-28 14:55                         ` Chris Cox
2003-10-28  8:57                     ` Mark H. Wood
2003-10-28  8:40                 ` Mark H. Wood
2003-10-23 18:53         ` [linux-lvm] RAID 1 on Device Mapper - best practices? John Stoffel
2003-11-20  7:20         ` Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade
2003-11-20  8:33           ` [linux-lvm] " Måns Rullgård
2003-11-21 13:02             ` Micah Anderson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-29  0:54 [linux-lvm] Drive gone bad, now what? Victor Tan

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