Re: reiserfs_fs.h listed in SCO court docs

Re: reiserfs_fs.h listed in SCO court docs

[Hans Reiser]

Jason Holt wrote:

>Just looking through the list of supposedly infringing files at groklaw:
>
>http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2003111203544653
>
>And they list:
>
>fs/reiserfs/do_balan.c
>fs/reiserfs/fix_node.c
>include/linux/reiserfs_fs.h
>
>Hans, did you sneaky look through SCO's IP and use it when writing your code?
>
>
>					-J
>
>
>
>  
>
Hunh?

Do they claim that we call some function that infringes (I have no idea 
what, kmalloc or something....) or that our code in that file itself 
infringes?  When someone doesn't tell you what is allegedly infringing 
it is reallly hard to do anything.

It is really really hard to imagine do_balan.c infringing, as it is not 
interface code, and nobody else uses trees like we do, and thus it would 
be harder for it to be contaminated by ext2 code (I am always worrying 
someone will get lazy and use some ext2 code without my noticing it, and 
we audit the code before each time we license it to prevent that)  as 
part of someone conforming to VFS interfaces.....  though I do see some 
tiny bit of VFS interface code there in do_balan.c....

I had decided that this was something to ignore and let IBM deal with 
but, sigh......

I am coming more and more to believe that Microsoft is almost surely 
funding this lawsuit.  It is very much their style to do something like 
that.

-- 
Hans

Re: reiserfs_fs.h listed in SCO court docs

[Hans Reiser]

Stefan Traby wrote:

>On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 04:23:46AM -0800, Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2003111203544653
>>>
>>>And they list:
>>>
>>>fs/reiserfs/do_balan.c
>>>fs/reiserfs/fix_node.c
>>>include/linux/reiserfs_fs.h
>>>
>>>Hans, did you sneaky look through SCO's IP and use it when writing your 
>>>code?
>>>      
>>>
>
>  
>
>>Hunh?
>>
>>Do they claim that we call some function that infringes (I have no idea 
>>what, kmalloc or something....) or that our code in that file itself 
>>infringes?  When someone doesn't tell you what is allegedly infringing 
>>it is reallly hard to do anything.
>>    
>>
>
>asp:~/linux/fs/reiserfs# grep \ SMP *.c
>do_balan.c:   using buffers already obtained.  For SMP support it will someday be
>fix_node.c: * When ported to SMP kernels, only at the last moment after all needed nodes
>asp:~/linux/fs/reiserfs# 
>
>
>SCO really sucks.
>There was simply no real investigation.
>
>  
>
You are absolutely right.  You forgot the includes....

reiser@bitspit:/usr/src/linux/include/linux> grep SMP reiserfs_fs*

reiserfs_fs.h:gods only know how we are going to SMP the code that uses 
them.

Oh would I like to make a court appearance regarding this one....

-- 
Hans

reiserfs_fs.h listed in SCO court docs

[Jason Holt]

Just looking through the list of supposedly infringing files at groklaw:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2003111203544653

And they list:

fs/reiserfs/do_balan.c
fs/reiserfs/fix_node.c
include/linux/reiserfs_fs.h

Hans, did you sneaky look through SCO's IP and use it when writing your code?


					-J

Re: reiserfs_fs.h listed in SCO court docs

[Stefan Traby]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 04:23:46AM -0800, Hans Reiser wrote:

> >http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2003111203544653
> >
> >And they list:
> >
> >fs/reiserfs/do_balan.c
> >fs/reiserfs/fix_node.c
> >include/linux/reiserfs_fs.h
> >
> >Hans, did you sneaky look through SCO's IP and use it when writing your 
> >code?

> Hunh?
> 
> Do they claim that we call some function that infringes (I have no idea 
> what, kmalloc or something....) or that our code in that file itself 
> infringes?  When someone doesn't tell you what is allegedly infringing 
> it is reallly hard to do anything.

asp:~/linux/fs/reiserfs# grep \ SMP *.c
do_balan.c:   using buffers already obtained.  For SMP support it will someday be
fix_node.c: * When ported to SMP kernels, only at the last moment after all needed nodes
asp:~/linux/fs/reiserfs# 


SCO really sucks.
There was simply no real investigation.

-- 

  ciao - 
    Stefan

Re: reiserfs_fs.h listed in SCO court docs

[Andreas Dilger]

On Nov 12, 2003  04:23 -0800, Hans Reiser wrote:
> Jason Holt wrote:
> >Just looking through the list of supposedly infringing files at groklaw:
> >
> >http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2003111203544653
> >
> >And they list:
> >
> >fs/reiserfs/do_balan.c
> >fs/reiserfs/fix_node.c
> >include/linux/reiserfs_fs.h
> >
> >Hans, did you sneaky look through SCO's IP and use it when writing your code?
>
> Hunh?
> 
> Do they claim that we call some function that infringes (I have no idea 
> what, kmalloc or something....) or that our code in that file itself 
> infringes?  When someone doesn't tell you what is allegedly infringing 
> it is reallly hard to do anything.
> 
> It is really really hard to imagine do_balan.c infringing, as it is not 
> interface code, and nobody else uses trees like we do, and thus it would 
> be harder for it to be contaminated by ext2 code (I am always worrying 
> someone will get lazy and use some ext2 code without my noticing it, and 
> we audit the code before each time we license it to prevent that)  as 
> part of someone conforming to VFS interfaces.....  though I do see some 
> tiny bit of VFS interface code there in do_balan.c....

It appears that the use of "smp" in comments is considered infringing by
SCO.  They should know, they invented SMP, right?

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/