From: tabris <tabris@tabris.net>
To: coderman <coderman@charter.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4 vs 2.6
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:23:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200312141523.15209.tabris@tabris.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FDBC466.3060304@charter.net>
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On Saturday 13 December 2003 9:01 pm, coderman wrote:
> Jan Rychter wrote:
> >So, as for me, 2.6 is a definite no-no. I see no advantage whatsoever
> > in running it, it caused me nothing but pain, and there is no
> > improvement that I could see that would justify the upgrade.
> >
> >So please be careful when making statements like that. 2.6 is *NOT*
> >stable enough nor ready enough for people to use it, unless those
> > people have a narrow range of hardware on which the 2.6 kernel has
> > actually been tested (translation: they have the same hardware as the
> > main developers do).
>
> For every person who has problems with 2.6, there are probably 2 others
> who have none, and enjoy the benefits of the new features. 2.6 works
> great for me, and one a number of hardware configurations including:
Somehow, working for 2/3, or even 75% of cases is less than encouraging
to me.
Especially if I must not only set up boxes that I may not touch
physically for days, weeks, etc. Or I suggest which kernel for other
people to use, due to security fixes (which, iirc, not all 2.4 fixes have
been forward ported yet), features, etc.
2.6 is... getting there. and I DO much appreciate the work of the
developers. But with devfs deprecated, udev still coming into its own
(Nice work GregKG btw); with the myriad of (user visible) input layer
changes; the change in focus on initrds (it used to be a nice thing that
only serious people use. Now, although still optional, it is now becoming
much more important). Or mebbe consider that the last time I tried to
install the new modutils (I'm blaming my distro vendor for this), it
broke my 2.4 modutils, requiring me to boot with init=/bin/sh and fix it
up.
Sure. little things, but altogether, they add up to a lot more work to
learn.
<snip>
>
> 2.6 may not be usable for you, but this has no bearing on the utility
> of the branch for others. I have noticed benefits (mainly prempt,
> IPSEC, and the IDE device handling) which make it very worthwhile.
>
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tabris
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-12-14 20:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-01 6:20 XFS for 2.4 Nathan Scott
2003-12-01 9:24 ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-01 9:44 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2003-12-01 9:45 ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-01 14:06 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-01 22:10 ` Nathan Scott
2003-12-01 22:20 ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-02 0:23 ` Nathan Scott
2003-12-02 11:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 18:05 ` Austin Gonyou
2003-12-02 19:55 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-12-02 20:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 20:16 ` Lawrence Walton
2003-12-03 19:01 ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 20:45 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-12-03 21:17 ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 21:48 ` Joel Becker
2003-12-03 22:17 ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 22:08 ` Ed Sweetman
2003-12-04 5:21 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-12-04 0:34 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-04 5:33 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-12-04 10:13 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-02 11:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 11:48 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 15:34 ` Russell Cattelan
2003-12-02 15:50 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 16:10 ` Darrell Michaud
2003-12-02 16:21 ` Austin Gonyou
2003-12-02 16:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-02 16:57 ` venom
2003-12-02 17:41 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2003-12-02 18:01 ` Russell Cattelan
2003-12-02 16:13 ` Jeremy Jackson
2003-12-02 0:51 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-02 1:26 ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2003-12-14 1:08 ` 2.4 vs 2.6 Jan Rychter
2003-12-14 1:01 ` Roberto Sanchez
2003-12-14 11:23 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-14 18:09 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2003-12-14 1:53 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2003-12-14 2:01 ` coderman
2003-12-14 20:23 ` tabris [this message]
2003-12-14 7:05 ` Voicu Liviu
2003-12-14 16:01 ` Roberto Sanchez
2003-12-14 17:32 ` Voicu Liviu
2003-12-15 7:23 ` Harry McGregor
2003-12-15 7:51 ` Voicu Liviu
2003-12-14 11:24 ` Frederik Deweerdt
2003-12-01 21:00 ` XFS for 2.4 Dan Yocum
2003-12-01 21:50 ` Bryan Whitehead
2003-12-01 22:01 ` Jeffrey E. Hundstad
2003-12-01 22:13 ` Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
2003-12-02 2:54 ` Joshua Schmidlkofer
2003-12-02 11:02 ` Maciej Soltysiak
[not found] <fa.iaibikf.1l5injd@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.m5245vp.h0ukb5@ifi.uio.no>
2003-12-15 10:56 ` 2.4 vs 2.6 Anssi Saari
2003-12-15 17:25 ` David Ford
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-25 7:35 Vijay Chauhan
2006-05-26 7:29 ` Neil Brown
2006-05-26 7:30 ` Neil Brown
2006-05-26 8:19 ` mehta kiran
2006-05-26 19:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-05-29 5:55 ` Neil Brown
2006-05-29 8:52 ` mehta kiran
2006-05-29 16:02 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-05-30 1:12 ` Greg Banks
2006-05-30 1:59 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-06-13 3:29 ` Neil Brown
2006-06-13 20:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-06-13 23:22 ` Neil Brown
2006-06-14 1:29 ` Greg Banks
2006-06-14 2:15 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-06-14 2:22 ` Greg Banks
2006-06-14 4:18 ` Neil Brown
2006-06-14 4:36 ` Greg Banks
2006-06-14 19:40 ` William A.(Andy) Adamson
2006-06-15 3:17 ` Greg Banks
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