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From: Matt Porter <mporter@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: Matt Porter <mporter@kernel.crashing.org>,
	lists@mdiehl.de, dsaxena@plexity.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch] dma_sync_to_device
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 12:23:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040211122319.B5618@home.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040211103056.69e4660e.davem@redhat.com>; from davem@redhat.com on Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 10:30:56AM -0800

On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 10:30:56AM -0800, David S. Miller wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:18:00 -0700
> Matt Porter <mporter@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> 
> > Sure, other non cache coherent arch's that I'm aware of (PPC, ARM, etc.)
> > already implement the least expensive cache operations based on the
> > direction parameter in pci_dma_sync_single(). On PPC, we do the right
> > thing based on each of three valid directions, I don't yet see what
> > additional information pci_dma_sync_to_device_single() provides. 
> 
> There are two points in time where you want to sync:
> 
> 1) Right after the device has done a DMA transaction, and the cpu
>    wishes to read/write the datum.
> 
> 2) Right after the cpu has read/write the datum, and we like to let the
>    device DMA to/from the thing again.
>
> That is the distinction provided by the two interfaces.
 
Ok, this distinction helps a bit.

> Consider something like MIPS, cache flushes needed for both of the above
> operations:
> 
> 1) pci_map_single(), device DMA's from the buffer.
> 
> 2) pci_dma_sync_single().  Cpu writes some new command or
>    status flag into the buffer.
> 
> 3) pci_dma_sync_to_device_single(), now device is asked to DMA from the buffer
>    again.
> 
> Cache flushes are needed on MIPS for both step #2 and #3, and different kinds of
> flushes in fact.
> 
> Do you understand the need for this now?

Actually, not yet.  Is it not possible for MIPS to determine the correct
cache operation to use if step #3 used a pci_dma_sync_single() with a
TO_DEVICE direction?  

I'm guessing that MIPS must have some kind of bridge cache in order to
require the pci_dma_sync_to_device_single() if I'm starting to follow
this.

-Matt

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-11 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-10 17:31 [Patch] dma_sync_to_device Martin Diehl
2004-02-10 18:42 ` David S. Miller
2004-02-10 18:59   ` Martin Diehl
2004-02-11  6:17 ` Deepak Saxena
2004-02-11  6:51   ` Martin Diehl
2004-02-11 16:39     ` Deepak Saxena
2004-02-11 17:51       ` David S. Miller
2004-02-11 18:18     ` Matt Porter
2004-02-11 18:30       ` David S. Miller
2004-02-11 18:57         ` Deepak Saxena
2004-02-11 19:08           ` David S. Miller
2004-02-12  3:46             ` Deepak Saxena
2004-02-12  3:58               ` David S. Miller
2004-02-13  1:49             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-14  7:24               ` David S. Miller
2004-02-11 19:23         ` Matt Porter [this message]
2004-02-11 19:30           ` David S. Miller
2004-02-11 18:43       ` linux-2.6.2 Kernel Problem Elikster
2004-02-14 11:51         ` Adrian Bunk
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-13 14:27 [Patch] dma_sync_to_device James Bottomley
2004-02-14  8:51 ` Martin Diehl
2004-02-14 22:34   ` James Bottomley
2004-02-14 23:18   ` David S. Miller

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