deleting a bad kernel

deleting a bad kernel

[Rei Shinozuka]

i downloaded a new new kernel using Up2date (which was much MUCH
better after finding suitable mirrors).  it downloaded without a hitch,
but when it started, it deleted by nVideo Corporation/nForce2 ethernet
controller (it asked me and i stupidly assented).  i can't seem to get it
back, especially without any net access any longer.  so i booted to the
old kernel which is fine.

i'd like to try loading the new kernel again, but i think i need to 
delete it completely first.  how do i go about doing so?  thanks,

-rei

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Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com
Ridgewood, New Jersey

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Re: deleting a bad kernel

[pa3gcu]

On Sunday 04 April 2004 02:25, Rei Shinozuka wrote:
> i downloaded a new new kernel using Up2date (which was much MUCH
> better after finding suitable mirrors).  it downloaded without a hitch,
> but when it started, it deleted by nVideo Corporation/nForce2 ethernet
> controller (it asked me and i stupidly assented).  i can't seem to get it
> back, especially without any net access any longer.  so i booted to the
> old kernel which is fine.

Let me rephrase your plee for help.

You downloaded a kernel with up2date, which is no doubt a precompiled kernel, 
obviously that kernel does not have support for your nforce ethernet chip.
Now its not the kernel which says (as you put it)  "it asked me and i stupidly 
assented" that was Kadzu a configuration program.

You made no mention of a kernel version number, so i now need to explain about 
nforce chipsets.

In kernels 2.4.xx there is NO support for nforce chipsets, there is however a 
driver available from nvidia.com, at the moment it only supports 2.4.xx 
kernels, as a matter fo fact i checked yesterday for someone else.

That means if you upgrade a kernel like you have and it is a 2.4.xx kernel you 
need to "reinstall" the nforce driver.

So you see if you have a 2.4.xx kernel and you used up2date to install the new 
2.4.xx kernel then you now have no more support untill you reinstall the 
driver. Latest version is;
NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0261, it is in rpm format or tar.gz, there is a very good 
document for reading on howto install it.

>
> i'd like to try loading the new kernel again, but i think i need to
> delete it completely first.  how do i go about doing so?  thanks,

You can leave as many kernels as you wish anywhere you want, providing that 
your bootloader has multiple kernels to choose from at bootime.

In otherwrods no you dont need to delete it first.

>
> -rei

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If the Linux community is a bunch of theives because they
try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
is built on organized crime.

Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/



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Re: deleting a bad kernel

[pa3gcu]

On Sunday 04 April 2004 12:26, Rei Shinozuka wrote:

I've CC'd this back to the list as i belive it concerns many besides yourself.

> thanks again for the help...  not in a hundred years would i have
> figured this out.
>
> from old 2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
> to new   2.4.22-1.2174.nptl
>
> the old was set up by http://www.linuxcomputersystems.com/
> when i got the machine.
>
> sp i assume they did all the hard work of getting this (and possibly
> other drivers) on board.
>
> obviously, you need to get the drivers before you do the update.

If the supllier of the system did there work properly (or i would expect it to 
be like the following)
They supplied a working system which means they must have installed the nforce 
driver, (i doubt if they wrote there own) meaning the rpm or the tar archive 
should be on your system somewhere, that seems reasonable to me as folks 
often upgrade kernels.

Of course if it is not on your system you will indeed need to obtan it before 
rebooting into the new kernel as you would then have a system without an 
ethernet device.

I personally would splash out on a $15 ethernet card which i know is 
supported.

I have never used fedora so i really should refrain from commenting.

>
> when i wanted to repartition my drive, he sort of discouraged me
> from trying to just do a fresh install off the fedora disks.  this
> was probably one of the reasons.  
>
> at least you can set your default kernel to boot from.
>
> and thank goodness for mondo.

Its your computer, you can install what you want, nearly all linux distro's 
are free downloads from internet, its up to you.

-- 
If the Linux community is a bunch of theives because they
try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
is built on organized crime.

Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/



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