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* Preventing port scanning
@ 2004-04-07 18:14 Stuart Lamble
  2004-04-07 18:57 ` Antony Stone
  2004-04-07 18:57 ` Rob Sterenborg
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stuart Lamble @ 2004-04-07 18:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter

Hi All

Is it possible to prevent people from port scanning my firewall to see
whats open?


Thanks
Stu

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* Re: Preventing port scanning
  2004-04-07 18:14 Preventing port scanning Stuart Lamble
@ 2004-04-07 18:57 ` Antony Stone
  2004-04-07 19:28   ` Stephen Frost
  2004-04-07 18:57 ` Rob Sterenborg
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Antony Stone @ 2004-04-07 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter

On Wednesday 07 April 2004 7:14 pm, Stuart Lamble wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Is it possible to prevent people from port scanning my firewall to see
> whats open?

<pedant>You can't prevent them port scanning your firewall, no,</pedant> 
however you can prevent them getting any positive answers simply by ensuring 
that all the ports are closed.

(If, for some reason, you need to have some ports open for external access to 
your network, then no, you cannot prevent people from discovering this.)

You might try using some sort of tarpit rules to bog down a naive port scanner 
which scans multiple ports in a short period of time, however these will have 
no effect on scanners which are only looking for a small number of ports 
(such as 21,22,23,25,53,80,110,119,143 for example).

Regards,

Antony.

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* RE: Preventing port scanning
  2004-04-07 18:14 Preventing port scanning Stuart Lamble
  2004-04-07 18:57 ` Antony Stone
@ 2004-04-07 18:57 ` Rob Sterenborg
  2004-04-07 19:09   ` Antony Stone
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rob Sterenborg @ 2004-04-07 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter

> Is it possible to prevent people from port scanning my 
> firewall to see whats open?

You mean : "iptables -P INPUT DROP" ?


Gr,
Rob



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* Re: Preventing port scanning
  2004-04-07 18:57 ` Rob Sterenborg
@ 2004-04-07 19:09   ` Antony Stone
  2004-04-07 19:42     ` Rob Sterenborg
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Antony Stone @ 2004-04-07 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter

On Wednesday 07 April 2004 7:57 pm, Rob Sterenborg wrote:

> > Is it possible to prevent people from port scanning my
> > firewall to see whats open?
>
> You mean : "iptables -P INPUT DROP" ?

I'd recommend "iptables -F INPUT" with that choice, sir :)

Antony.

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* Re: Preventing port scanning
  2004-04-07 18:57 ` Antony Stone
@ 2004-04-07 19:28   ` Stephen Frost
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Frost @ 2004-04-07 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter

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* Antony Stone (Antony@Soft-Solutions.co.uk) wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 April 2004 7:14 pm, Stuart Lamble wrote:
> (If, for some reason, you need to have some ports open for external access to 
> your network, then no, you cannot prevent people from discovering this.)
> 
> You might try using some sort of tarpit rules to bog down a naive port scanner 
> which scans multiple ports in a short period of time, however these will have 
> no effect on scanners which are only looking for a small number of ports 
> (such as 21,22,23,25,53,80,110,119,143 for example).

It depends on what ports need to be open and what ports are being
scanned.  Using your example above and ipt_recent, if you don't have
port 21 open and the scan starts with that then you can drop the rest of
the attempted connections.  Of course, if the scanner is doing this
across a couple of hours or from many different IP addresses it gets
more difficult.

	Stephen

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* Re: Preventing port scanning
  2004-04-07 19:09   ` Antony Stone
@ 2004-04-07 19:42     ` Rob Sterenborg
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rob Sterenborg @ 2004-04-07 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Netfilter

On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 21:09, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 April 2004 7:57 pm, Rob Sterenborg wrote:
> 
> > > Is it possible to prevent people from port scanning my
> > > firewall to see whats open?
> >
> > You mean : "iptables -P INPUT DROP" ?
> 
> I'd recommend "iptables -F INPUT" with that choice, sir :)

Of course, where was my mind when I wrote this...
<grin>It's quite effective, however.</grin>


Gr,
Rob




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