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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@myrealbox.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	arjanv@redhat.com, suresh.b.siddha@intel.com,
	jun.nakajima@intel.com
Subject: Re: [announce] [patch] NX (No eXecute) support for x86,   2.6.7-rc2-bk2
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:06:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040604160628.GA32375@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0406040830200.7010@ppc970.osdl.org>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:

> I think we should just look at the executable itself, not whether it
> is suid. If the executable says it is "NX-approved", then it's
> NX-approved.  End of story - just try to make sure that as many
> executables as possible get compiled with the newer compiler suite
> that enables it.

right now the 'x' bit in the PT_GNU_STACK ELF program header has the
narrow meaning of specifcing the stack's executability. How should we
handle the brk area's executability? A good portion of recent attacks
came over heap overflows.

we could use the following 3 values:

 PT_GNU_STACK not present: legacy app, stack and heap executable
 PT_GNU_STACK present but !X: heap non-executable, stack executable
 PT_GNU_STACK present and X: both heap and stack are executable.

this method is what is used in Fedora and it works pretty well.

(in fact Fedora also does VM-layout changes to get more brk/mmap space
on x86 and to put executable code close to each other - this too is
turned off if PT_GNU_STACK is not present.)

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-06-04 16:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-02 20:50 [announce] [patch] NX (No eXecute) support for x86, 2.6.7-rc2-bk2 Ingo Molnar
2004-06-02 21:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-02 21:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-02 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 21:17   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-02 21:31     ` Doug McNaught
2004-06-08  8:46       ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-06-03  1:12     ` Joel Becker
2004-06-03  1:27       ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-03  6:24       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-03 20:37     ` jlnance
2004-06-03  7:21   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03 12:44     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03 15:54       ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-03 23:01         ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-03 23:08           ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-03 23:54             ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-04  0:05               ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-04  9:25             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04 15:26               ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-04 15:36                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-04 15:41                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04 15:47                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-04 15:51                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04 16:02                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-04 16:13                           ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-04 16:37                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04 16:40                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-04 17:27                                 ` David Mosberger
2004-06-04 17:30                                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-08  9:07                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-06-08  9:14                               ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-08  9:19                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04 16:51                           ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-06-08 17:15                             ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-04 18:11                         ` Gerhard Mack
2004-06-04 18:12                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04 16:06                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2004-06-04 17:20                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04 17:22                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04 17:32                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03 19:24       ` Suresh Siddha
2004-06-03 20:37         ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-03 22:58           ` Suresh Siddha
2004-06-03 23:06             ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-04  9:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03 12:57     ` Brian Gerst
2004-06-04  9:39       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04 10:41         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-04 10:48           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-03 16:21     ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-06-03 19:30   ` Kurt Garloff
2004-06-02 21:43 ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-03  0:11 ` Rusty Russell
2004-06-03  0:17   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-03  7:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03  8:47   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03  8:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04  0:04     ` Rusty Russell
2004-06-03  9:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03 14:36 ` Gerhard Mack
2004-06-03 16:22   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04  9:36   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04 11:59     ` Stephen Wille Padnos
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     [not found] ` <22O7J-8dw-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <22Wf4-5Xv-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-06-03  9:43     ` Andi Kleen
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2004-06-04 18:01 Nakajima, Jun

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