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From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
To: Bryan Henderson <hbryan@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: barriers vs. reads - O_DIRECT
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:42:55 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040624234255.X1325@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OFC3DA214F.0857214B-ON88256EBD.00831E2D-88256EBE.0000EF26@us.ibm.com>; from hbryan@us.ibm.com on Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 05:11:20PM -0700

Bryan Henderson wrote:
> There's also (kernel) aio to consider.

I suppose this would be the main scenario. AIO+O_DIRECT also
gives the closest approximation to directly talking to the
elevator.

> But I can't see how barriers figure into ordinary O_DIRECT file I/O.

Hmm, I've never looked at non-AIO write semantics with O_DIRECT.
For reasonable semantics, I guess it would either have to block
until the operation has completed, or be "atomic" (*).

(*) Defining atomic can be tricky, too. E.g. see
    http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0402.0/1361.html

- Werner

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-25  2:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-24  0:48 barriers vs. reads Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24  3:39 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24  8:00   ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-06-24 12:16     ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24 13:36   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-24 17:02     ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24 16:39 ` Steve Lord
2004-06-24 17:00 ` barriers vs. reads - O_DIRECT Bryan Henderson
2004-06-24 17:46   ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24 18:50     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-24 20:55       ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24 22:42         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-25  3:21           ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-25  3:57           ` Guy
2004-06-25  4:52             ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-25  0:11     ` Bryan Henderson
2004-06-25  2:42       ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2004-06-25 15:59         ` barriers vs. reads - O_DIRECT aio Bryan Henderson
2004-06-25 16:31         ` barriers vs. reads - O_DIRECT Bryan Henderson

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