[Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo submission guideline update proposal

[Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo submission guideline update proposal

[Raphaël Enrici]

Dear friends,

as discussed with Jean-Michel today, I'd like to suggest an update to 
the submission guideline for FreeOSZoo hdimages.
It's based on what I intend to do for the Debian Sarge image I'm preparing.
- for OS not configurable in an automatic way, an account should be 
declared (why not freezoo or something like that) and logged in 
automatically at boot time in a graphical session.
- To become root should be as simple as sudo su - with or without password.
- I've also added a splashscreen to GRUB based on the actual FreeOSZoo 
logo (see 
http://freeoszoo.org/~blacknoz/screenshots/sarge-screenshot.png)... If 
someone feels like doing better (it shoudl not be too hard ;p) he is 
welcome to submit a 640x480 image indexed with only 14 colors (Alt-I 
under gimp).

In clear, I just inspired myself from what's done into knoppix live CDs 
(thank you, knoppix :).

As usual, any suggestions are welcome.

Regards,
Raphaël
http://freeoszoo.org/~blacknoz

Re: [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo submission guideline update proposal

[Jean-Michel POURE]

> As usual, any suggestions are welcome.

For friends willing to upload OS images to FreeOSZoo, guidelines and 
recommendations are available on: http://www.freeoszoo.org/community.php

People willing to participate can get an SSH account on the server, so that 
they remain independant. Don't hesitate to join us...

All free OSes and suggestions are welcome...

Kind regards,
Jean-Michel

Re: [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo submission guideline update proposal

[Michael Jennings]

On Wednesday, 07 July 2004, at 21:57:34 (+0200),
Jean-Michel POURE wrote:

> For friends willing to upload OS images to FreeOSZoo, guidelines and
> recommendations are available on:
> http://www.freeoszoo.org/community.php
> 
> People willing to participate can get an SSH account on the server,
> so that they remain independant. Don't hesitate to join us...
> 
> All free OSes and suggestions are welcome...

What steps are being taken by the FreeOSZoo folks to ensure that these
images are secure and not trojaned?

Michael

PS:  Minor nit, "Submition" is correctly spelled "Submission" :)

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Re: [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo submission guideline update proposal

[Jean-Michel POURE]

Le jeudi 8 Juillet 2004 00:19, Michael Jennings a écrit :
> What steps are being taken by the FreeOSZoo folks to ensure that these
> images are secure and not trojaned?

We deliver the image with an MD5 sum. The images are installed using legacy 
installers downloaded from the original sites.

Do not hesitate to propose us other solutions.

> PS:  Minor nit, "Submition" is correctly spelled "Submission" :)

Thanks.

Kind regards,
Jean-Michel

Re: [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo submission guideline update proposal

[Jean-Michel POURE]

> I'm not sure I'll be able to follow those guides. Most of the OSes I'll be
> installing are for teaching purposes, so graphical logins and so on could
> not be the best choice. That's why I'm even trying to keep the image size
> low.

This is free software, do as you wish, these are only guidelines.

You are free to follow them or not. In understand there are two distinct 
issues: disc space, graphical login vs. text login:

- Disc space needs more discussion. Ronald outlines in a recent email that 
FAT16/32 may be limited to 4 Gb. It means that we will need to publish again 
the 4.3 Gb images like the SuSE. Also, we propably need COW images.

But when installing Fedora Core 2, I had the feeling that COW was slower than 
RAW. Maybe I am wrong and it was a problem with timing. I have to test again.

Does anyone know what is the faster image system, COW or RAW ?

- About graphical login, we can propose distinct download sections.

What do you think?

> The main task of Renzo's idea was preparing something that could be used
> into a laboratory, and that's what I started to do. Of course, the project
> has expanded and so larger images are ok, but a lab could "explode" when
> things start to be so big...

My personal opinion would be to clear the first 10 items of the to-do-list 
quickly, then work on a modern GUI and deliver a large number of guest 
systems.

The to-do-list can be found on the homepage:
http://www.freeoszoo.org

From 1 July to 8 July, the FTP figures were:

                                                  ---- Percent  Of ----
     Archive Section      Files Sent Bytes Sent    Files Sent Bytes Sent
------------------------- ---------- ------------- ---------- ----------
/home/ftp/images                1904   86343862323    74.20      89.97
/home/ftp                         80    9133409529     3.12       9.52
/home/ftp/qemu                   582     494336622    22.68       0.52

On a monthy basis, we will probably reach 10.000 guest systems delivered. In 
the short run, we may need peer-to-peer technologies, like Bittorrent, which 
is already used by RedHat and Mandrake to ship their distros.

My dream would be to deliver one million guest systems on a yearly basis. This 
can only be done if a multi-platform GUI is available. If not, the figures 
will probably be closer to 100.000 guest systems.

Kind regards,
Jean-Michel