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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Likelihood of rt_tasks
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 13:15:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040710111528.GA22265@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40EF354F.9090903@kolivas.org>


* Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:

> Well I dont think making them unlikely is necessary either, but
> realistically the amount of time added by the unlikely() check will be
> immeasurably small in real terms - and hitting it frequently enough
> will be washed over by the cpu as Ingo said. I dont think the order of
> magnitude of this change is in the same universe as the problem of
> scheduling latency that people are complaining of.

very much so. This is (sub-)nanoseconds stuff, while the scheduling
latencies are tens of milliseconds or more - at least 7 orders of
magnitude difference.

the unlikely() check in rt_task() was mainly done because there was a
steady stream of microoptimizations that added unlikely() to rt_task().
So now we do in everywhere and have removed the unlikely()/likely()
branches from sched.c. It doesnt really matter in real-world terms, but
it will make the common case code (non-RT) a tiny bit more compact. And
i challenge anyone to be able to even measure the difference to an RT
task.

Not to mention that any truly RT-centric/embedded distribution would
compile the kernel for size anyway, at which point the compiler ignores
(or should ignore) the likely/unlikely attributes anyway. So there's
really no harm to anyone and the code got a bit more readable.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-10 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-09 10:00 Likelihood of rt_tasks Con Kolivas
2004-07-09 10:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-09 23:53 ` Peter Williams
2004-07-10  0:16   ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-10  0:41     ` Peter Williams
2004-07-10  0:45       ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-10 11:15     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2004-07-10 12:05       ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-10  3:57   ` Elladan
2004-07-10 11:19     ` Ingo Molnar

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