mantis bug reports, again

mantis bug reports, again

[Paul Davis]

it may be nobody's loss, but if i get back from montreal in a week and
this list is still filled with mis-encoded email from mantis, i will
be forced to unsubscribe from alsa-devel, after being on it for about
5-6 years. i don't know why ALSA's mantis email is doing this - the
system set up for Ardour and for JACK do not - but its one of the most
irritating aspects of my inbox at the present time and has already
been reported twice.

--p


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Re: mantis bug reports, again

[Jaroslav Kysela]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Paul Davis wrote:

> it may be nobody's loss, but if i get back from montreal in a week and
> this list is still filled with mis-encoded email from mantis, i will
> be forced to unsubscribe from alsa-devel, after being on it for about
> 5-6 years. i don't know why ALSA's mantis email is doing this - the
> system set up for Ardour and for JACK do not - but its one of the most
> irritating aspects of my inbox at the present time and has already
> been reported twice.

Paul, which mailer client are you using? I can forward mantis mails to 
another list, but I'd like to fix the problem.

I'm using pine here, but with the SpamAssassin filter, thus I'm not sure,
if an e-mail format conversion is on the way.

						Jaroslav

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Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>
Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer
ALSA Project, SUSE Labs


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Re: mantis bug reports, again

[Paul Davis]

>On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Paul Davis wrote:
>
>> it may be nobody's loss, but if i get back from montreal in a week and
>> this list is still filled with mis-encoded email from mantis, i will
>> be forced to unsubscribe from alsa-devel, after being on it for about
>> 5-6 years. i don't know why ALSA's mantis email is doing this - the
>> system set up for Ardour and for JACK do not - but its one of the most
>> irritating aspects of my inbox at the present time and has already
>> been reported twice.
>
>Paul, which mailer client are you using? I can forward mantis mails to 
>another list, but I'd like to fix the problem.
>
>I'm using pine here, but with the SpamAssassin filter, thus I'm not sure,
>if an e-mail format conversion is on the way.

i use MH. i could change the way it handles encoding, but it seems
unnecessary. there's no reason to be using the "quoted-printable"
encoding at all. it doesn't help anyone AFAIK.


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Re: mantis bug reports, again

[Jaroslav Kysela]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Paul Davis wrote:

> >Paul, which mailer client are you using? I can forward mantis mails to 
> >another list, but I'd like to fix the problem.
> >
> >I'm using pine here, but with the SpamAssassin filter, thus I'm not sure,
> >if an e-mail format conversion is on the way.
> 
> i use MH. i could change the way it handles encoding, but it seems
> unnecessary. there's no reason to be using the "quoted-printable"
> encoding at all. it doesn't help anyone AFAIK.

Thanks for hint. I've changed the mailing method in mantis and it seems 
that messages are generated more correctly.

						Jaroslav

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Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>
Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer
ALSA Project, SUSE Labs


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Re: mantis bug reports, again

[Paul Davis]

>> mis-encoded email from mantis
>
>Why do you say it's mis-encoded?  It looks like valid RFC 1341/2045 
>MIME quoted-printable to me and my mail reader.

E-mail clients are not required to handle MIME, and quoted-printable
is entirely unnecessary when regular text works just fine (and appears
to be the default for Mantis auto-email sent from several other Mantis
systems). This is the kind of nonsense I'd expect from an MS-centric
site, not one at the core of the Linux kernel :) 

If regular text wasn't sufficient, I'd be happy to say "I must switch
mail clients", but this would be the only situation I have come across
that would to require this.

--p


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Re: mantis bug reports, again

[Chris Cannam]

On Thursday 15 Jul 2004 12:28 pm, Paul Davis wrote:
> mis-encoded email from mantis

Why do you say it's mis-encoded?  It looks like valid RFC 1341/2045 
MIME quoted-printable to me and my mail reader.


Chris



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Re: mantis bug reports, again

[Chris Cannam]

On Thursday 15 Jul 2004 1:22 pm, Paul Davis wrote:
> >> mis-encoded email from mantis
> >
> >Why do you say it's mis-encoded?  It looks like valid RFC
> > 1341/2045 MIME quoted-printable to me and my mail reader.
>
> E-mail clients are not required to handle MIME, and quoted-printable
> is entirely unnecessary

Not mis-encoded, though.  That's all I was wondering about.

I have no great love of quoted-printable myself, though it's been 
quite a while since I've had cause to notice it.


Chris



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