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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: V13 <v13@priest.com>, Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: 2.6.8-rc3-mm2
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 06:10:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040810131010.GW11200@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040810130122.GA26326@elte.hu>

* William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com> wrote:
>> This is serial port IO; would that make the same kind of difference?

On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 03:01:22PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> serial port IO is even more heavy, it also generates IRQ traffic. I'd
> suggest the following tests: modified kernel without serial console, and
> original kernel without serial console. This way you can find out 
> whether the hang itself is triggered by the serial console.
> another attack angle is to find out what state the system has during the
> hang. Is it debuggable?

I can get a very small amount of register state out of POD but most of
it is clobbered by trapping with the NMI/MCA I send from the L2 to get
into the POD (Prom Only Debugger), and it's not entirely clear what may
have been clobbered in this process. The state I can extract from this
is very difficult to interpret. It's unclear how well the consolidated
L2 console (a.k.a.  firmware console) and machine console interoperate
with e.g. kgdb and the like. I might as well try that, too.

It's unclear how much of the progress I can track without the serial
console as there are no other output devices besides the serial console.
I'll try it anyway, since the worst that can happen is a boot where it
crashes.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-10 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-08 22:29 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-08-08 22:55 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Brice Goglin
2004-08-08 23:04   ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-08-08 23:17     ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-08-09  2:17 ` [patch] 2.6.8-rc3-mm2: sk98lin/skge.c doesn't compile with PROC_FS=n Adrian Bunk
2004-08-09  5:14 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 (compile stats) John Cherry
2004-08-09  8:20 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Rick Lindsley
2004-08-09  8:25   ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-08-09  8:29   ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-09  8:33     ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-09  8:43 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-09  8:49 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-09 10:36 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Espen Fjellvær Olsen
2004-08-09 12:14   ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Vladimir V. Saveliev
2004-08-09 17:51   ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Hans Reiser
2004-08-09 17:50 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Johannes Stezenbach
2004-08-09 18:22 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Jesse Barnes
2004-08-09 18:25   ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-08-09 18:32     ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Jesse Barnes
2004-08-09 19:17       ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Jesse Barnes
2004-08-09 19:53         ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-09 20:43           ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-09 21:10             ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-09 22:45               ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10  6:34                 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10  8:02                   ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10  8:30                     ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-10  8:56                       ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10  9:00                         ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-10  9:06                           ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10  8:04                   ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-10  8:08                     ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-10  8:17                       ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10  8:23                         ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10  9:00                     ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10  9:38                       ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10 10:02                         ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10 11:53                           ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10 12:52                             ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 V13
2004-08-10 12:51                               ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10 12:55                                 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-10 12:56                                   ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10 13:01                                     ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-10 13:10                                       ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-08-10 13:12                                       ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Russell King
2004-08-10 13:16                                         ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-10 13:39                                           ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Russell King
2004-08-10 13:48                                             ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-10  6:32 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-10  8:34 ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Rick Lindsley
2004-08-10 14:55   ` 2.6.8-rc3-mm2 Martin J. Bligh

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