From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Roger Luethi <rl@hellgate.ch>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sf.net>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [BENCHMARK] nproc: Look Ma, No get_tgid_list!
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:38:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040831193842.GO5492@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040831153431.GA6010@k3.hellgate.ch>
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 05:34:32PM +0200, Roger Luethi wrote:
> This posting demonstrates a new method of monitoring all processes in
> a large system.
> You may remember what a /proc based tool does when monitoring some
> 10^5 processes -- it spends its time in the kernel hanging on to a
> read task_list_lock:
> ==> 10000 processes: top -d 0 -b > /dev/null <==
> CPU: CPU with timer interrupt, speed 0 MHz (estimated)
> Profiling through timer interrupt
> samples % image name symbol name
> 35855 36.0707 vmlinux get_tgid_list
> 9366 9.4223 vmlinux pid_alive
> 7077 7.1196 libc-2.3.3.so _IO_vfscanf_internal
> 5386 5.4184 vmlinux number
> 3664 3.6860 vmlinux proc_pid_stat
[...]
The most crucial issue for larger systems is removing the rather easily
triggerable rwlock starvation. Perhaps dipankar's /proc/ -only tasklist
RCU patch can resolve that.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 05:34:32PM +0200, Roger Luethi wrote:
> Here's a profile for an nproc based tool monitoring the same set
> of processes:
> ==> 10000 processes: nprocbench <==
> CPU: CPU with timer interrupt, speed 0 MHz (estimated)
> Profiling through timer interrupt
> samples % app name symbol name
> 8641 24.8626 vmlinux __task_mem
> 2778 7.9931 vmlinux find_pid
> 2536 7.2968 vmlinux finish_task_switch
> 1872 5.3863 vmlinux netlink_recvmsg
> 1637 4.7101 vmlinux nproc_pid_fields
[...]
> Resource usage is now dominated by field computation, rather than by
> delivery overhead. By now it should be clear that nproc is not only a
> cleaner interface with lower overhead for tools, it also scales a lot
> better than /proc.
With this in hand we can probably ignore the /proc/ -related efficiency
issues in favor of any method preventing the rwlock starvation, e.g.
dipankar's /proc/ -only tasklist RCU patch.
-- wli
prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-01 0:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-27 12:24 [0/2][ANNOUNCE] nproc: netlink access to /proc information Roger Luethi
2004-08-27 12:24 ` [1/2][PATCH] " Roger Luethi
2004-08-27 13:39 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-27 12:24 ` [2/2][sample code] nproc: user space app Roger Luethi
2004-08-27 14:50 ` [0/2][ANNOUNCE] nproc: netlink access to /proc information James Morris
2004-08-27 15:26 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-27 16:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-27 16:37 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-27 16:41 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-27 17:01 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-27 17:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28 19:45 ` [BENCHMARK] " Roger Luethi
2004-08-28 19:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28 20:14 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-29 16:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-29 17:02 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-29 17:20 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-29 17:52 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-29 18:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-29 19:00 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-29 20:17 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-29 20:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-29 21:45 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-29 22:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-29 21:41 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-29 23:31 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-30 7:16 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-30 10:31 ` Paulo Marques
2004-08-30 10:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-30 12:23 ` Paulo Marques
2004-08-30 12:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-30 13:43 ` Paulo Marques
2004-08-29 19:07 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-29 19:17 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-29 19:49 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-29 20:25 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-31 10:16 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-31 15:34 ` [BENCHMARK] nproc: Look Ma, No get_tgid_list! Roger Luethi
2004-08-31 19:38 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
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