* editing a menu entry
@ 2004-09-14 14:12 Yoshinori K. Okuji
2004-09-14 14:27 ` Tobias Wollgam
2004-09-14 16:09 ` Marco Gerards
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From: Yoshinori K. Okuji @ 2004-09-14 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The development of GRUB 2
I'd like to hear your opinion about editing a menu entry.
I'm now writing code for editing a menu entry. Unlike GRUB Legacy, I'd
like to edit a menu entry directly using GRUB as a screen editor rather
than going to a command-line and going back to the menu-like interface.
Conceptually, the interface for menu entry editing will behave like a
subset of GNU Emacs.
Then, there is a key bind problem. In GRUB Legacy, we use 'b' to boot an
entry and use ENTER to edit a specified command. In GRUB 2, these must
be used to insert the character 'b' and to insert a newline or split a
command into two, respectively. Then, how to boot the entry? I don't
know what the right way is. Using an unusual key (such as C-c)? Or, a
combination of keys (such as C-x b)?
What do you think?
Okuji
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* Re: editing a menu entry
2004-09-14 14:12 editing a menu entry Yoshinori K. Okuji
@ 2004-09-14 14:27 ` Tobias Wollgam
2004-09-14 15:23 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2004-09-14 16:09 ` Marco Gerards
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From: Tobias Wollgam @ 2004-09-14 14:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The development of GRUB 2
> I'd like to hear your opinion about editing a menu entry.
>
> I'm now writing code for editing a menu entry. Unlike GRUB Legacy,
> I'd like to edit a menu entry directly using GRUB as a screen editor
> rather than going to a command-line and going back to the menu-like
> interface. Conceptually, the interface for menu entry editing will
> behave like a subset of GNU Emacs.
>
> Then, there is a key bind problem. In GRUB Legacy, we use 'b' to boot
> an entry and use ENTER to edit a specified command. In GRUB 2, these
> must be used to insert the character 'b' and to insert a newline or
> split a command into two, respectively. Then, how to boot the entry?
> I don't know what the right way is. Using an unusual key (such as
> C-c)? Or, a combination of keys (such as C-x b)?
>
> What do you think?
I do not know which possibilities there are, but I don't like the key
combination stuff.
How is ALT-b?
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* Re: editing a menu entry
2004-09-14 14:12 editing a menu entry Yoshinori K. Okuji
2004-09-14 14:27 ` Tobias Wollgam
@ 2004-09-14 16:09 ` Marco Gerards
2004-09-15 9:35 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
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From: Marco Gerards @ 2004-09-14 16:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The development of GRUB 2
"Yoshinori K. Okuji" <okuji@enbug.org> writes:
> I'd like to hear your opinion about editing a menu entry.
>
> I'm now writing code for editing a menu entry. Unlike GRUB Legacy, I'd
> like to edit a menu entry directly using GRUB as a screen editor rather
> than going to a command-line and going back to the menu-like interface.
> Conceptually, the interface for menu entry editing will behave like a
> subset of GNU Emacs.
That is nice! Have you thought about using tab completion here?
> Then, there is a key bind problem. In GRUB Legacy, we use 'b' to boot an
> entry and use ENTER to edit a specified command. In GRUB 2, these must
> be used to insert the character 'b' and to insert a newline or split a
> command into two, respectively. Then, how to boot the entry? I don't
> know what the right way is. Using an unusual key (such as C-c)? Or, a
> combination of keys (such as C-x b)?
AFAIK emacs has combinations of keys because there are not enough keys
for every function. I don't think GRUB will ever have this problem so
an unusual key would be the best IMHO. It is easier for users and
easier to implement.
Thanks,
Marco
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* Re: editing a menu entry
2004-09-14 16:09 ` Marco Gerards
@ 2004-09-15 9:35 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
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From: Yoshinori K. Okuji @ 2004-09-15 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The development of GRUB 2
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 18:09, Marco Gerards wrote:
> That is nice! Have you thought about using tab completion here?
Not yet completely. Probably we will want to have a common completion
routine shared by menu editing and command-line handling. In the menu
interface, I think we can use some different ways to show candidates
potentially:
1. Show a list of available things (devices/files/commands) at the
bottom of the screen (out of the menu box).
2. Split the menu box temporarily and show a list.
3. Overwrite a list on the menu box with the colors flipped (white
background and black foreground) temporarily.
I think 1 and 3 are zsh-like, and 1 and 2 are Emacs-like. 1 is the
easiest to implement, but it can show very few candidates at a time.
> AFAIK emacs has combinations of keys because there are not enough
> keys for every function. I don't think GRUB will ever have this
> problem so an unusual key would be the best IMHO. It is easier for
> users and easier to implement.
Actually, we need a key to enter the command-line interface as well as
one to boot. So maybe C-c for a command-line and C-x for booting. I
don't want to use C-z, C-w or C-q, because the positions are different
between QWERTY and AZERTY.
Okuji
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* Re: editing a menu entry
@ 2004-09-15 8:22 lode leroy
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From: lode leroy @ 2004-09-15 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: grub-devel
>I'd like to hear your opinion about editing a menu entry.
>
>Then, how to boot the entry?
how about double-bucky B ?
seriously, could you put buttons on the screen, [save] [boot] [return]
so people could navigate to the "[boot]" button, and press "enter"?
and for the advanced users, ctrl-enter ?
-- lode
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