From: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
To: Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>
Cc: efocht@hpce.nec.com, akpm@osdl.org, nagar@watson.ibm.com,
ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, mbligh@aracnet.com,
lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, hch@infradead.org,
steiner@sgi.com, jbarnes@sgi.com, sylvain.jeaugey@bull.net,
djh@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, colpatch@us.ibm.com,
Simon.Derr@bull.net, ak@suse.de, sivanich@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] [PATCH] cpusets - big numa cpu and memory placement
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 07:37:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041004073713.2d047a24.pj@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <416156E8.7060708@watson.ibm.com>
Erich wrote:
> > Can CKRM (as it is now) fulfil the requirements?
> ...
> [CKRM] doesn't care about the structure of the machine
Hubertus wrote:
> You forget that CKRM does NOT violate ... cpus_allowed ...
> ...
> In order to allow CKRM scheduling within a cpuset ...
I sense a disconnect here.
Seems to me Erich was asking if CKRM could be used _instead_ of cpusets,
and observes that, for now at least, CKRM lacks something.
Seems to me Hubertus is, _in_ _part_, responding to the question of
whether CKRM can be used _within_ cpusets, and claims to be taking a
position opposite to Erich's, protesting that indeed CKRM can be used
within cpusets - CKRM doesn't violate cpus_allowed constraints.
Hubertus - I didn't realize that Erich considered that question, not did
I realize he took that position.
Unfortunately, the plot thickens. Hubertus goes on it seems to consider
other questions, and I start to lose the thread of his thought. Such
questions as:
- can RCFS/controllers set cpus_allowed as do cpusets?
[ beware that there's more to cpusets than setting cpus_allowed ]
- can cpusets replace shared based scheduling?
- can share based scheduling replace cpusets?
- can CKRM scheduling be allowed within cpusets?
- are sibling cpusets exclusive?
[ yes - if the exclusive property is set on them ]
- can we enforce that a certain task class is limited to a cpuset subtree?
By now I'm thoroughly confused. Fortunately, Hubertus concludes:
- If we agree or disagree then we can work on a proposal for this.
Well, since I'm pretty sure from my Logic 101 class that we agree or
disagree, this is good news. I'm glad to hear we can work on a proposal
on this [ what was 'this' again ...? ;) ]
One thing I am sure of ... either one of Hubertus or myself needs another
cup of coffee, or both Hubertus and I need to have a beer together.
--
I won't rest till it's the best ...
Programmer, Linux Scalability
Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> 1.650.933.1373
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2004-08-05 10:08 [PATCH] new bitmap list format (for cpusets) Paul Jackson
2004-08-05 10:10 ` [PATCH] cpusets - big numa cpu and memory placement Paul Jackson
2004-08-05 20:55 ` [Lse-tech] " Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-06 2:05 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-06 3:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-06 8:31 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-06 15:30 ` Erich Focht
2004-08-06 15:35 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-06 15:48 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-08-07 6:30 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-07 6:45 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-06 15:49 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-08-06 15:52 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-08-06 15:55 ` Erich Focht
2004-08-07 6:10 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-07 15:22 ` Erich Focht
2004-08-07 18:59 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-08 3:17 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-08 14:50 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-11 0:43 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-11 9:40 ` Erich Focht
2004-08-11 14:49 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-11 17:50 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-11 21:12 ` Shailabh Nagar
2004-08-12 7:15 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-12 12:58 ` Jack Steiner
2004-08-12 14:50 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-11 15:12 ` Shailabh Nagar
2004-08-08 20:22 ` Shailabh Nagar
2004-08-09 15:57 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-08-10 11:31 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson
2004-08-10 22:38 ` Shailabh Nagar
2004-08-11 10:42 ` Erich Focht
2004-08-11 14:56 ` Shailabh Nagar
2004-08-14 8:51 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-08 19:58 ` Shailabh Nagar
2004-10-01 23:41 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-02 6:06 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-02 14:55 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-10-02 16:14 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-10-02 18:04 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-02 23:21 ` Peter Williams
2004-10-02 23:44 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-10-03 0:00 ` Peter Williams
2004-10-03 3:44 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-05 3:13 ` [ckrm-tech] " Matthew Helsley
2004-10-05 8:30 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-10-05 14:20 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 2:59 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 3:19 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 3:53 ` Peter Williams
2004-10-03 4:47 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 5:12 ` Peter Williams
2004-10-03 5:39 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 4:02 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 3:39 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 14:36 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-03 15:39 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 23:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-04 0:02 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-04 0:53 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 3:56 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-04 4:24 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 15:03 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-04 15:53 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 18:17 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-04 20:25 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 22:15 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-05 9:17 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-05 10:01 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-05 22:24 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-05 9:26 ` Simon Derr
2004-10-05 9:58 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-05 19:34 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-06 0:28 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-06 1:16 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-06 2:08 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-06 22:59 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-06 23:23 ` Peter Williams
2004-10-07 0:16 ` Rick Lindsley
2004-10-07 18:27 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-07 8:51 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-07 10:53 ` Rick Lindsley
2004-10-07 14:41 ` Martin J. Bligh
[not found] ` <20041007072842.2bafc320.pj@sgi.com>
2004-10-07 19:05 ` Rick Lindsley
2004-10-10 2:15 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson
2004-10-11 22:06 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-11 22:58 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-12 21:22 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-12 8:50 ` Simon Derr
2004-10-12 21:25 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-10 2:28 ` Paul Jackson
[not found] ` <4165A31E.4070905@watson.ibm.com>
2004-10-08 13:14 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-08 15:42 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-10-08 18:23 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-09 1:00 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-09 20:08 ` [Lse-tech] " Paul Jackson
2004-10-11 22:16 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-11 22:42 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-10 0:05 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-11 22:18 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-11 22:39 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-09 0:51 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-10 0:50 ` [Lse-tech] " Paul Jackson
2004-10-10 0:59 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-09 0:22 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-12 22:24 ` [Lse-tech] " Hanna Linder
2004-10-13 20:56 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-09 0:06 ` [Lse-tech] " Matthew Dobson
2004-10-07 12:47 ` Simon Derr
2004-10-07 14:49 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-07 17:54 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-07 18:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-08 9:23 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-08 9:50 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-08 10:40 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-08 14:26 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-08 9:53 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-08 11:40 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-08 14:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-08 22:37 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-14 10:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-10-14 11:22 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-14 11:23 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-14 19:39 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-14 22:38 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-10-15 1:26 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-07 18:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-07 19:52 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-07 21:04 ` [ckrm-tech] " Matthew Helsley
2004-10-10 3:22 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-07 19:16 ` Rick Lindsley
2004-10-10 2:35 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-10 5:12 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson
2004-10-08 23:48 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-09 0:18 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-11 23:00 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-11 23:09 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-05 22:33 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-06 3:01 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-06 23:12 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-07 8:59 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 0:45 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 11:44 ` Rick Lindsley
2004-10-04 22:46 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson
2004-10-05 22:19 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-06 2:39 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-06 23:21 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-07 9:41 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson
2004-10-06 2:47 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-06 9:43 ` Simon Derr
2004-10-06 13:27 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-06 21:55 ` Peter Williams
2004-10-06 22:49 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-06 8:02 ` Simon Derr
2005-02-07 23:59 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-02-08 0:20 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-08 0:34 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-08 9:54 ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-02-08 9:49 ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-08 16:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-02-08 23:26 ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-09 4:23 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-08 19:32 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-02-09 2:53 ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-08 19:00 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-02-08 20:42 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-08 22:14 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-02-08 23:58 ` Shailabh Nagar
2005-02-09 0:27 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-09 0:24 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-09 17:59 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2005-02-11 2:46 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-02-11 9:21 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-12 1:37 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-02-12 6:16 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-11 16:54 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-02-11 18:42 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-02-11 18:50 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-02-08 16:15 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-02-08 22:17 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-03 16:02 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 23:47 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-04 3:33 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 20:10 ` Tim Hockin
2004-10-04 1:56 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 3:35 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 20:21 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-03 20:48 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-04 14:05 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-04 14:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-04 15:30 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 15:41 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-04 16:02 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 18:19 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-04 18:29 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 15:38 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 16:46 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 3:41 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 13:58 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-10-04 14:13 ` Simon Derr
2004-10-04 14:15 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-04 15:23 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 14:37 ` Paul Jackson [this message]
2004-10-02 15:46 ` [ckrm-tech] " Marc E. Fiuczynski
2004-10-02 16:17 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-10-02 17:53 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-02 18:16 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-10-02 19:14 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-02 23:29 ` Peter Williams
2004-10-02 23:51 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-10-02 20:40 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-02 23:08 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-10-02 22:26 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-03 2:49 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 12:19 ` Hubertus Franke
2004-10-03 3:25 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 2:26 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-03 14:11 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-02 17:47 ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-05 20:47 ` [Lse-tech] [PATCH] new bitmap list format (for cpusets) Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-05 21:45 ` Paul Jackson
[not found] ` <Pine.A41.4.53.0408060930100.20680@isabelle.frec.bull.fr>
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2004-08-10 23:43 ` Paul Jackson
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