From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: tglx@linutronix.de
Cc: karim@opersys.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.11-rc1-mm1
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:26:52 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050114162652.73283f2e.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1105747280.13265.72.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de>
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>
> ...
> I'm impressed of your sudden time constraints awareness. Allowing 8192
> bytes of user event size, string printing with varags and XML tracing
> is not biting you ?
? I see no XML in there.
akpm:/usr/src/25> grep -i xml patches/ltt* patches/relayfs*
patches/ltt-core-headers.patch:+#define LTT_CUSTOM_EV_FORMAT_TYPE_XML 3
akpm:/usr/src/25>
>
> Haha. If you have eventstamps and timestamps (even the jiffie + event
> based ones) nothing is hard to interpret. I guess the ethereal guys are
> rolling on the floor and laughing.
>
> The kernel is not the place to fix your postprocessing problems. Sure
> you have to do more complicated stuff, but you move the burden from
> kernel to a place where it does not hurt.
I thought Karim said that this was a form of data compression.
>
> Yes, the "you would anyway have to go down the same path we have"
> argument really scares me away from doing so.
>
> I don't buy this kind of arguments.
I do. When someone has been working on a real-world project for several
years we *need* to understand all the problems which that person
encountered before we can competently review the implementation. Surely
you've been there before: you throw out all the old stuff, write a new one
and once you've addressed all the warts and corner cases and
weird-but-valid requirements it ends up with the same complexity as the
original.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-15 0:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-14 8:23 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-14 8:47 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-14 9:27 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 10:27 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Nikita Danilov
2005-01-14 10:38 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-14 11:06 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 15:31 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-14 21:11 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 22:58 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tim Bird
2005-01-15 0:20 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-15 4:25 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15 1:06 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-15 4:18 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 2:38 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-16 6:00 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 16:52 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-16 21:18 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 1:37 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 2:24 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 12:20 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 20:32 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 22:31 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 22:42 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-17 23:26 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 23:41 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 0:02 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-18 3:05 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 13:54 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-17 21:27 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 23:57 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-18 4:03 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 4:30 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Aaron Cohen
2005-01-18 4:46 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 8:07 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-18 16:40 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 19:37 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-18 15:31 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-21 6:26 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-21 22:23 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-23 7:43 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-23 7:52 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-23 8:28 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-24 0:38 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-25 9:12 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 1:13 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-18 2:52 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 17:02 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-16 19:05 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-19 11:14 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-19 16:53 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-16 16:14 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-16 19:47 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 20:30 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-19 11:11 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-14 15:24 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-18 11:19 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Masami Hiramatsu
2005-01-18 11:46 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-18 14:52 ` [Lkst-develop] 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Masami Hiramatsu
2005-01-14 12:36 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-14 13:04 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Kasper Sandberg
2005-01-14 18:35 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-14 19:08 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Rogério Brito
2005-01-14 19:41 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Peter Buckingham
2005-01-17 17:04 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Matthias Urlichs
2005-01-14 19:02 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Bill Davidsen
2005-01-14 15:07 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-14 16:56 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-14 17:55 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-19 23:06 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Marcos D. Marado Torres
2005-01-19 23:54 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-14 15:35 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-01-14 22:03 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 17:35 ` [patch] 2.6.11-rc1-mm1: ip_tables.c: ipt_find_target must be EXPORT_SYMBOL'ed Adrian Bunk
2005-01-14 17:43 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-01-14 22:41 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tim Bird
2005-01-14 22:46 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-14 23:22 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tim Bird
2005-01-15 0:24 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-15 1:27 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 16:18 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-15 13:08 ` [RFC] Instrumentation (was Re: 2.6.11-rc1-mm1) Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-16 2:09 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 3:11 ` Roman Zippel
2005-01-16 4:23 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 23:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 1:54 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 10:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 20:34 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 22:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 23:57 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 8:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-18 16:31 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-19 7:13 ` Werner Almesberger
2005-01-19 17:38 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 22:48 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andre Eisenbach
2005-01-15 8:42 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-15 8:45 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <1105740276.8604.83.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de>
2005-01-14 23:09 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15 0:01 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-15 0:26 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-01-15 1:00 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-15 1:25 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15 10:20 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-16 4:13 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 15:19 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-15 1:14 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15 9:57 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-16 16:21 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-16 19:49 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 20:11 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-16 20:32 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-16 21:06 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-16 21:40 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Arjan van de Ven
2005-01-17 15:48 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-17 16:13 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-17 21:38 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 20:39 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-16 21:14 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-15 2:58 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-17 22:19 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-16 0:59 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Joseph Fannin
2005-01-16 19:09 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Daniel Drake
2005-01-16 19:20 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-16 21:09 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Daniel Drake
2005-01-17 23:31 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 J.A. Magallon
2005-01-18 2:35 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Daniel Drake
2005-01-18 2:54 ` [PATCH] Wait and retry mounting root device (revised) Daniel Drake
2005-01-18 0:34 ` Al Viro
2005-01-18 0:02 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-01-18 8:05 ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-18 8:28 ` Helge Hafting
2005-01-18 8:49 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-18 13:20 ` Helge Hafting
2005-01-20 20:55 ` [PATCH] Configurable delay before mounting root device Daniel Drake
2005-01-20 20:24 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-21 18:15 ` Daniel Drake
2005-01-20 22:49 ` William Park
2005-01-18 1:03 ` [PATCH] Wait and retry mounting root device (revised) William Park
2005-01-19 0:43 ` Werner Almesberger
2005-01-18 8:02 ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-19 20:11 ` Frank van Maarseveen
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2005-01-17 6:49 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Prasanna S Panchamukhi
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