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From: Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
	<c-d.hailfinger.devel.2005-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>,
	ncunningham-jjFNsPSvq+iXDw4h08c5KA@public.gmane.org,
	ACPI List
	<acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon))
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:49:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050204074923.GE1086@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e47339105020321031ccaabb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Hi!

> Reseting a video card from suspend is essentially the same problem as
> reseting secondary video cards on boot. The same code can address both
> problems.

Well, it is made more tricky by the fact that you are running during
resume -- hard to debug. Ideally you want to have video so you can
debug resume of ethernet, disk, etc... But you don't have video :-(.

But I agree, same code should be used.

								Pavel
-- 
People were complaining that M$ turns users into beta-testers...
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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2005@gmx.net>,
	ncunningham@linuxmail.org,
	ACPI List <acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon))
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:49:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050204074923.GE1086@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e47339105020321031ccaabb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

> Reseting a video card from suspend is essentially the same problem as
> reseting secondary video cards on boot. The same code can address both
> problems.

Well, it is made more tricky by the fact that you are running during
resume -- hard to debug. Ideally you want to have video so you can
debug resume of ethernet, disk, etc... But you don't have video :-(.

But I agree, same code should be used.

								Pavel
-- 
People were complaining that M$ turns users into beta-testers...
...jr ghea gurz vagb qrirybcref, naq gurl frrz gb yvxr vg gung jnl!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-02-04  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 179+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-22 13:42 Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon) Nikolaus Filus
     [not found] ` <20050122134205.GA9354-u75qzGzWA6cb1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03  1:46   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]     ` <4201825B.2090703-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03  1:54       ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-03  5:38       ` Stefan Schweizer
     [not found]         ` <e796392205020221387d4d8562-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03 11:56           ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-03 12:23           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]             ` <420217DB.709-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03 22:45               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                 ` <4202A972.1070003-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03 22:54                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                     ` <20050203225410.GB1110-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-03 23:43                       ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                         ` <1107474198.5727.9.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPXw0QcLn3kwYh@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04  2:35                           ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04  2:35                             ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                             ` <4202DF7B.2000506-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04  2:51                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-04  2:51                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                 ` <1107485504.5727.35.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPXw0QcLn3kwYh@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04  7:18                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Jon Smirl
2005-02-04  7:18                                     ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                     ` <9e4733910502032318460f2c0c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04  7:44                                       ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Pavel Machek
2005-02-04  7:44                                         ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                         ` <20050204074454.GB1086-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 17:38                                           ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 17:38                                             ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                             ` <9e473391050204093837bc50d3-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  0:52                                               ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-05  0:52                                                 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                                 ` <420418C7.5010309-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  1:08                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05  1:08                                                     ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05  9:35                                               ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Pavel Machek
2005-02-05  9:35                                                 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                 ` <20050205093550.GC1158-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05 11:35                                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Ondrej Zary
2005-02-05 11:35                                                     ` Ondrej Zary
2005-02-06 16:02                                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Alan Cox
2005-02-06 16:02                                                     ` Alan Cox
2005-02-07  2:11                                                     ` Adam Sulmicki
     [not found]                                                       ` <Pine.BSF.4.62.0502062107000.26868-l0fCXZmbWQJ/Vb4cDf9RU/Z8FUJU4vz8@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 14:27                                                         ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Paulo Marques
2005-02-07 14:27                                                           ` Paulo Marques
     [not found]                                                           ` <42077AC4.5030103-TSnNRl9vlf1Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 14:36                                                             ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-07 14:36                                                               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                                               ` <42077CFD.7030607-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 15:39                                                                 ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-07 15:39                                                                   ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-07 16:01                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-07 16:01                                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-07 16:20                                                                   ` Li-Ta Lo
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1107793204.2930.18.camel-fiEEBCSFsUl2jBC2uHMcnu1ftBKYq+Ku@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-11  1:47                                                                       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-11  1:47                                                                         ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                                                         ` <420C68B3.4080509@scitechsoft.com>
     [not found]                                                                           ` <420CA2D2.6050003@gmx.net>
     [not found]                                                                             ` <420D08F2.3060505@scitechsoft.com>
     [not found]                                                                               ` <420D5481.1060402@gmx.net>
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <420D7B1B.3030503@scitechsoft.com>
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <421715EB.3020207@gmx.net>
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <42180D40.1020409@scitechsoft.com>
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <425907FC.6010504@gmx.net>
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <425907FC.6010504-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-05-10  8:36                                                                                           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <42807289.8090003-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-05-10 16:33                                                                                               ` Kendall Bennett
     [not found]                                                                                                 ` <4280E262.9020207-uto6oM0aG36m1FQbPH9wZw@public.gmane.org>
2005-05-10 19:36                                                                                                   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-07 18:04                                                               ` [RFC] " Adam Sulmicki
2005-02-07 16:39                                                             ` Li-Ta Lo
2005-02-07 16:39                                                               ` Li-Ta Lo
2005-02-07 13:24                                                     ` [ACPI] Re: [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Matthew Garrett
2005-02-07 14:09                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-07 14:09                                                         ` [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                         ` <20050207140937.GA8040-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 14:25                                                           ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                     ` <1107695583.14847.167.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 19:13                                                       ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Bill Davidsen
2005-02-10 19:13                                                         ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Bill Davidsen
     [not found]                                                         ` <420BB267.8060108-sQDSfeB7uhw@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 19:25                                                           ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Ville Syrjälä
2005-02-10 19:25                                                             ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]                                                             ` <20050210192554.GA15726-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 20:08                                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-10 20:08                                                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-10 20:17                                                                 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Jon Smirl
2005-02-10 20:17                                                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Jon Smirl
2005-02-10 20:29                                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-10 20:34                                                                     ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Jon Smirl
2005-02-10 20:34                                                                       ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                                       ` <9e47339105021012341c94c441-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 20:46                                                                         ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Kendall Bennett
2005-02-10 20:46                                                                           ` Kendall Bennett
     [not found]                                                                           ` <420BC814.4050102-uto6oM0aG36m1FQbPH9wZw@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 21:06                                                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-10 21:06                                                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-10 21:20                                                                               ` Kendall Bennett
2005-02-10 21:20                                                                                 ` Kendall Bennett
2005-02-10 21:28                                                                               ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-10 22:53                                                                                 ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <9e47339105021013285e390e2a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-11  1:41                                                                                   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-11  1:41                                                                                     ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                                                   ` <9e473391050210121756874a84-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-10 20:32                                                                     ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Ville Syrjälä
2005-02-10 20:32                                                                       ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Ville Syrjälä
2005-02-10 19:31                                                           ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Pavel Machek
2005-02-10 19:31                                                             ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
2005-02-10 23:03                                                         ` Matan Ziv-Av
2005-02-07 19:27                                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Eric W. Biederman
2005-02-07 19:27                                                     ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                     ` <m1lla0187m.fsf-T1Yj925okcoyDheHMi7gv2pdwda3JcWeAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 20:59                                                       ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Pavel Machek
2005-02-07 20:59                                                         ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
2005-02-04  5:03                               ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Jon Smirl
2005-02-04  5:03                                 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                 ` <9e47339105020321031ccaabb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04  7:49                                   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-02-04  7:49                                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-04 12:17                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04 12:17                                     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                     ` <420367CF.7060206-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 13:51                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-04 13:51                                         ` [ACPI] " Matthew Garrett
2005-02-04 16:30                                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-04 16:30                                         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                         ` <20050204163019.GC1290-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 17:31                                           ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 17:31                                             ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                             ` <9e4733910502040931955f5a6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 18:10                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2005-02-04 18:10                                                 ` Jesse Barnes
     [not found]                                                 ` <200502041010.13220.jbarnes-UzQTBcouhwxWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 20:29                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 20:29                                                     ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                     ` <9e473391050204122942da8aa7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 22:13                                                       ` James Simmons
2005-02-04 22:13                                                         ` James Simmons
2005-02-04 21:56                                                   ` James Simmons
2005-02-04 21:56                                                     ` James Simmons
2005-02-04 22:59                                                   ` Legacy IO spaces (was Re: [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume) Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 22:59                                                     ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                     ` <9e4733910502041459500ae8d3-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 23:34                                                       ` Jesse Barnes
2005-02-04 23:34                                                         ` Jesse Barnes
     [not found]                                                         ` <200502041534.03004.jbarnes-UzQTBcouhwxWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  0:48                                                           ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05  0:48                                                             ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                             ` <9e47339105020416486cf19738-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05 22:42                                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-05 22:42                                                                 ` [ACPI] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-06  0:17                                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-06  0:17                                                                   ` [ACPI] " Jon Smirl
2005-02-06  0:07                                                           ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-06  0:07                                                             ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                             ` <9e47339105020516072b33a9c6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-06  0:19                                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2005-02-06  0:19                                                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-02-05  2:04                                               ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05  2:04                                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05  2:09                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05  2:09                                                   ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                   ` <9e4733910502041809738017a7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  2:17                                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05  2:17                                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05  2:30                                                       ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05  2:30                                                         ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                         ` <9e47339105020418306a4c2c93-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  8:15                                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05  8:15                                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05 11:53                                                             ` Ondrej Zary
2005-02-05 11:53                                                               ` Ondrej Zary
     [not found]                                                               ` <4204B3C1.80706-ZCIryABCsrmttCpgsWEBFmD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05 12:28                                                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05 12:28                                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-05 15:47                                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05 15:47                                                                   ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                                   ` <9e473391050205074769e4f10-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05 16:48                                                                     ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-05 16:48                                                                       ` [ACPI] " Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-05 17:38                                                                       ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                                         ` <9e47339105020509382adbbf39-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-06 11:05                                                                           ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-06 11:05                                                                             ` [ACPI] " Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-07 10:20                                                                           ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-07 10:20                                                                             ` [ACPI] " Helge Hafting
     [not found]                                                                             ` <420740F1.5050609-CND4fxrytsY@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-07 14:22                                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-07 14:22                                                                                 ` [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
2005-02-05 15:55                                                             ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05 15:55                                                               ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05  9:37                                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-05  9:37                                                 ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                 ` <20050205093740.GD1158-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  9:49                                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-05  9:49                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-05 15:49                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-05 15:49                                                     ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-04 22:09                                           ` James Simmons
2005-02-04 22:09                                             ` James Simmons
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.56.0502042206090.26459-nGpKsS7K33UUkNsaar8edxWb9i9o6OzJ@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  1:07                                               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-05  1:07                                                 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-05  1:14                                           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-05  1:14                                             ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04 14:40                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Xavier Bestel
2005-02-04 14:40                                     ` Xavier Bestel
2005-02-05  1:10                                     ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-05  1:10                                       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04  7:48                               ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon)) Pavel Machek
2005-02-04  7:48                                 ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                 ` <20050204074802.GD1086-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 10:26                                   ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: " Oliver Neukum
2005-02-04 10:26                                     ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume (was: Re: [ACPI] " Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                     ` <200502041126.14386.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 11:32                                       ` [RFC] Reliable video POSTing on resume Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-04 11:32                                         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
     [not found]                                         ` <42035D5A.2030703-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 12:11                                           ` David Goodenough
2005-02-04 12:11                                             ` [ACPI] " David Goodenough
2005-02-04 16:15                                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-04 16:15                                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-04  7:43                           ` Samsung P35, S3, black screen (radeon) Pavel Machek
     [not found]                             ` <20050204074302.GA1086-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 10:19                               ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                 ` <1107512396.5727.80.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPXw0QcLn3kwYh@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 16:13                                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                     ` <20050204161358.GA1290-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 22:26                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                         ` <1107555981.4109.3.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPXw0QcLn3kwYh@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  9:31                                           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                             ` <20050205093118.GA1158-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  9:44                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                                 ` <1107596660.6348.6.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPXw0QcLn3kwYh@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  9:45                                                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                     ` <20050205094541.GE1158-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-05  9:51                                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-05  9:32                                           ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-03 22:50               ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                 ` <20050203225033.GA1110-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-04 15:50                   ` Stefan Seyfried

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