From: Tom <tom@lemuria.org>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: Ivan Gyurdiev <ivg2@cornell.edu>,
"Fedora SELinux support list for users & developers."
<fedora-selinux-list@redhat.com>,
selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: Desktop apps interoperability
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:47:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050328174753.D29441@lemuria.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1112022750.2914.65.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>; from sds@tycho.nsa.gov on Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 10:12:30AM -0500
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 10:12:30AM -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> Seems fairly pointless to perform such a relabeling if the context
> determination is based entirely on untrusted input from the same source
> as the data itself and the user isn't involved to any greater degree
> than selecting the file in the first place.
Not so sure about the pointlessness here. The point is that it makes it
more difficult to leverage exploits. Maybe I can break into Firefox,
but with that in place I can't jump from there to mplayer by forcing it
to play something I know will break it.
Lots and lots of system compromises I know about took more than one
exploit and more than one program needed to be broken.
Nevertheless, an explicit "good file" filter is certainly added value.
It doesn't have to be a full-blown virus scanner - on a proper SELinux
system I would expect any unexpected behaviour in mplayer to be
contained. Nevertheless, the filter should at least check whether the
data in question is what it claims to be. No need to port the nightmare
of .doc files that really are .exe or whatever to Linux.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-28 15:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-28 4:57 Desktop apps interoperability Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 5:03 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 5:27 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 10:01 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 10:17 ` Rogelio Serrano
2005-03-29 11:33 ` Dale Amon
2005-03-29 13:54 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-29 15:39 ` Colin Walters
2005-03-28 11:26 ` Tom
2005-03-28 12:15 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 13:11 ` Tom
2005-03-28 13:46 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 14:09 ` Tom
2005-03-28 15:05 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 15:12 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 15:47 ` Tom [this message]
2005-03-28 16:04 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 16:20 ` Tom
2005-03-28 16:39 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-30 5:01 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 15:41 ` Tom
2005-03-28 10:04 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 13:36 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 18:27 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 18:23 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 19:54 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 19:46 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 13:43 ` Stephen Smalley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-28 16:51 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 15:05 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 15:29 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 15:52 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 16:13 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 21:50 ` Tom
2005-03-30 22:12 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-31 8:37 ` Tom
2005-03-31 10:05 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-31 8:42 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 17:04 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 17:15 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-30 17:26 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-30 17:44 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 18:09 ` Jim McCullough
2005-03-30 22:09 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-30 22:00 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-31 9:25 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-31 9:48 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 17:27 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 17:53 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 17:56 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-30 17:58 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-31 10:04 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-31 16:05 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-31 16:08 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-31 21:13 ` Tom
2005-03-31 21:05 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-04-01 5:28 ` Rogelio Serrano
2005-04-01 7:54 ` Tom
2005-03-31 17:40 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-31 16:51 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-31 18:16 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-04-02 3:50 Casey Schaufler
2005-04-03 23:39 Casey Schaufler
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