From: Tom <tom@lemuria.org>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
Ivan Gyurdiev <ivg2@cornell.edu>,
selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: Desktop apps interoperability
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:13:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050331231259.B2607@lemuria.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1112285287.11216.114.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>; from sds@tycho.nsa.gov on Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:08:07AM -0500
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:08:07AM -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> > Look here, sonny, I've been doing MLS systems
> > since 1986 and the One Truth You Must Learn
> > is that applications can not be changed. No.
> > Don't even consider thinking in this direction.
> > This is wrong. Sometimes all that's available
> > is the binary. Sometimes they like the way it
> > works.
>
> Ah, yes. That's certainly the example we should be following...the
> example set by past trusted/MLS OSes. No thanks, we're trying to solve
> real problems here...
He does have a point, though - sometimes the application can not be
changed. It may be a legacy application and for all I care, those are
the ones most in need of a protective cage.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-31 21:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-31 16:05 Desktop apps interoperability Casey Schaufler
2005-03-31 16:08 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-31 21:13 ` Tom [this message]
2005-03-31 21:05 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-04-01 5:28 ` Rogelio Serrano
2005-04-01 7:54 ` Tom
2005-03-31 17:40 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-03 23:39 Casey Schaufler
2005-04-02 3:50 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-31 16:51 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-31 18:16 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-30 17:58 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-31 10:04 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 17:53 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 17:56 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-30 17:27 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 17:04 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 17:15 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-30 17:26 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-30 17:44 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 18:09 ` Jim McCullough
2005-03-30 22:09 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-30 22:00 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-31 9:25 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-31 9:48 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 15:52 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 16:13 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 21:50 ` Tom
2005-03-30 22:12 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-31 8:37 ` Tom
2005-03-31 10:05 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-31 8:42 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 15:05 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 15:29 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 16:51 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-28 4:57 Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 5:03 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 5:27 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 10:01 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 10:17 ` Rogelio Serrano
2005-03-29 11:33 ` Dale Amon
2005-03-29 13:54 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-29 15:39 ` Colin Walters
2005-03-28 11:26 ` Tom
2005-03-28 12:15 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 13:11 ` Tom
2005-03-28 13:46 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 14:09 ` Tom
2005-03-28 15:05 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 15:12 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 15:47 ` Tom
2005-03-28 16:04 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 16:20 ` Tom
2005-03-28 16:39 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-30 5:01 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 15:41 ` Tom
2005-03-28 10:04 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 13:36 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 18:27 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 18:23 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 19:54 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 19:46 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 13:43 ` Stephen Smalley
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