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From: Tom <tom@lemuria.org>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Ivan Gyurdiev <ivg2@cornell.edu>,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: Desktop apps interoperability
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:13:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050331231259.B2607@lemuria.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1112285287.11216.114.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>; from sds@tycho.nsa.gov on Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:08:07AM -0500

On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:08:07AM -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> > Look here, sonny, I've been doing MLS systems
> > since 1986 and the One Truth You Must Learn
> > is that applications can not be changed. No.
> > Don't even consider thinking in this direction.
> > This is wrong. Sometimes all that's available
> > is the binary. Sometimes they like the way it
> > works.
> 
> Ah, yes.  That's certainly the example we should be following...the
> example set by past trusted/MLS OSes.  No thanks, we're trying to solve
> real problems here...

He does have a point, though - sometimes the application can not be
changed. It may be a legacy application and for all I care, those are
the ones most in need of a protective cage.



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  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-31 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-31 16:05 Desktop apps interoperability Casey Schaufler
2005-03-31 16:08 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-31 21:13   ` Tom [this message]
2005-03-31 21:05     ` Stephen Smalley
2005-04-01  5:28       ` Rogelio Serrano
2005-04-01  7:54         ` Tom
2005-03-31 17:40 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-03 23:39 Casey Schaufler
2005-04-02  3:50 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-31 16:51 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-31 18:16 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-30 17:58 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-31 10:04 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 17:53 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 17:56 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-30 17:27 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 17:04 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 17:15 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-30 17:26 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-30 17:44   ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 18:09     ` Jim McCullough
2005-03-30 22:09       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-30 22:00     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-31  9:25       ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-31  9:48         ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 15:52 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 16:13 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 21:50   ` Tom
2005-03-30 22:12     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-31  8:37       ` Tom
2005-03-31 10:05         ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-31  8:42     ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-30 15:05 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-30 15:29 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 16:51 Casey Schaufler
2005-03-28  4:57 Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28  5:03 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28  5:27   ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 10:01     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 10:17       ` Rogelio Serrano
2005-03-29 11:33         ` Dale Amon
2005-03-29 13:54           ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-29 15:39             ` Colin Walters
2005-03-28 11:26     ` Tom
2005-03-28 12:15       ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 13:11         ` Tom
2005-03-28 13:46           ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 14:09             ` Tom
2005-03-28 15:05               ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 15:12                 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 15:47                   ` Tom
2005-03-28 16:04                     ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 16:20                       ` Tom
2005-03-28 16:39                         ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-30  5:01                           ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-03-28 15:41                 ` Tom
2005-03-28 10:04 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 13:36   ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 18:27     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 18:23       ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 19:54         ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-28 19:46           ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-28 13:43 ` Stephen Smalley

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