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* Linux, Get the facts?
@ 2005-08-02 20:19 Alejandro Bonilla
  2005-08-02 20:48 ` Manuel Schneider
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From: Alejandro Bonilla @ 2005-08-02 20:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Hi Guys/Gals,

	I watched some commercials and I almost puked when I looked at the
Microsoft Get the Facts for Linux vs Windows Server stuff.

They have a url which is http://www.microsoft.com/getthefacts

Is this crap any close to real or by any chance "realistic" ? Are these
"benchmarks" simple marketing?

.Alejandro


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* Re: Linux, Get the facts?
  2005-08-02 20:19 Linux, Get the facts? Alejandro Bonilla
@ 2005-08-02 20:48 ` Manuel Schneider
  2005-08-02 21:10 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Schneider @ 2005-08-02 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Hi,

> Is this crap any close to real or by any chance "realistic" ? Are these
> "benchmarks" simple marketing?
they're marketing.
Just the same stuff like the studies paid by Microsoft.
It's not worth to spend any thought on it.

Greets,

Manuel

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* Re: Linux, Get the facts?
  2005-08-02 20:19 Linux, Get the facts? Alejandro Bonilla
  2005-08-02 20:48 ` Manuel Schneider
@ 2005-08-02 21:10 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
  2005-08-02 23:21 ` Puneet Vyas
  2005-08-03 12:34 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: linux-os (Dick Johnson) @ 2005-08-02 21:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alejandro Bonilla; +Cc: linux-kernel


On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:

> Hi Guys/Gals,
>
> 	I watched some commercials and I almost puked when I looked at the
> Microsoft Get the Facts for Linux vs Windows Server stuff.
>
> They have a url which is http://www.microsoft.com/getthefacts
>
> Is this crap any close to real or by any chance "realistic" ? Are these
> "benchmarks" simple marketing?
>
> .Alejandro
>

If you look at the stuff published by "Security Innovation, Inc.",
in the same link, you can see that they don't presume that the report
will be read by anybody who knows what they are talking about. They take
the PUBLISHED possible problems with Linux and the PUBLISHED possible
problems with closed-source Microsoft and compare them as
"security vulnerabilities".

It's just the usual crap. Oh, they finally changed the software
in their ftp site so it claims to be Microsoft. For many years
they forgot about this and used the Sun ftp. At least it doesn't
respond to WIZ anymore!

Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.6.12 on an i686 machine (5537.79 BogoMips).
Warning : 98.36% of all statistics are fiction.
.
I apologize for the following. I tried to kill it with the above dot :

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* Re: Linux, Get the facts?
  2005-08-02 20:19 Linux, Get the facts? Alejandro Bonilla
  2005-08-02 20:48 ` Manuel Schneider
  2005-08-02 21:10 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
@ 2005-08-02 23:21 ` Puneet Vyas
  2005-08-03  2:20   ` Martin Drab
  2005-08-03 12:34 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Puneet Vyas @ 2005-08-02 23:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: abonilla; +Cc: linux-kernel

Hmmm ..... They put it such that it plays only in microsoft media 
player. Case closed :)

~Puneet

Alejandro Bonilla wrote:

>Hi Guys/Gals,
>
>	I watched some commercials and I almost puked when I looked at the
>Microsoft Get the Facts for Linux vs Windows Server stuff.
>
>They have a url which is http://www.microsoft.com/getthefacts
>
>  
>


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* Re: Linux, Get the facts?
  2005-08-02 23:21 ` Puneet Vyas
@ 2005-08-03  2:20   ` Martin Drab
  2005-08-03  6:20     ` Jan Engelhardt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Martin Drab @ 2005-08-03  2:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Puneet Vyas; +Cc: abonilla, linux-kernel



On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Puneet Vyas wrote:

> Hmmm ..... They put it such that it plays only in microsoft media player. Case
> closed :)

I think you're vastly underestimating the skills of MPlayer. ;-)
For instance

mplayer mms://wm.microsoft.com/ms/windowsserversystem/facts/videos/checkfree%20msft%20video%201500.wmv

works for me quite well. :-)

Martin

 
> Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
> 
> > Hi Guys/Gals,
> > 
> > 	I watched some commercials and I almost puked when I looked at the
> > Microsoft Get the Facts for Linux vs Windows Server stuff.
> > 
> > They have a url which is http://www.microsoft.com/getthefacts

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* Re: Linux, Get the facts?
  2005-08-03  2:20   ` Martin Drab
@ 2005-08-03  6:20     ` Jan Engelhardt
  2005-08-03 13:09       ` Martin Drab
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2005-08-03  6:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Drab; +Cc: Puneet Vyas, abonilla, linux-kernel

>> Hmmm ..... They put it such that it plays only in microsoft media player. Case
>> closed :)
>
>I think you're vastly underestimating the skills of MPlayer. ;-)
>mplayer mms://wm.microsoft.com/ms/windowsserversystem/facts/videos/checkfree%20msft%20video%201500.wmv
>works for me quite well. :-)

But it remains unethical [to use WMV].



Jan Engelhardt
-- 


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* Re: Linux, Get the facts?
  2005-08-02 20:19 Linux, Get the facts? Alejandro Bonilla
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2005-08-02 23:21 ` Puneet Vyas
@ 2005-08-03 12:34 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Bernd Petrovitsch @ 2005-08-03 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: abonilla; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 14:19 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
[...]
> 	I watched some commercials and I almost puked when I looked at the
> Microsoft Get the Facts for Linux vs Windows Server stuff.
> 
> They have a url which is http://www.microsoft.com/getthefacts

Yes, this propaganda exists since months.

> Is this crap any close to real or by any chance "realistic" ? Are these
> "benchmarks" simple marketing?

Would you expect anything on *that* server?
Hey, they must sell that stuff. Everything else is not important.

	Bernd
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Firmix Software GmbH                   http://www.firmix.at/
mobil: +43 664 4416156                 fax: +43 1 7890849-55
          Embedded Linux Development and Services


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* Re: Linux, Get the facts?
  2005-08-03  6:20     ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2005-08-03 13:09       ` Martin Drab
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Martin Drab @ 2005-08-03 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Engelhardt; +Cc: Puneet Vyas, abonilla, linux-kernel



On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

> >> Hmmm ..... They put it such that it plays only in microsoft media player. Case
> >> closed :)
> >
> >I think you're vastly underestimating the skills of MPlayer. ;-)
> >mplayer mms://wm.microsoft.com/ms/windowsserversystem/facts/videos/checkfree%20msft%20video%201500.wmv
> >works for me quite well. :-)
> 
> But it remains unethical [to use WMV].

Totally agreed, though.

Martin

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2005-08-02 20:48 ` Manuel Schneider
2005-08-02 21:10 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-08-02 23:21 ` Puneet Vyas
2005-08-03  2:20   ` Martin Drab
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