From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
ak@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com, bharata@in.ibm.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:44:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050914224456.GA32082@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050914024313.1e70f2a3.akpm@osdl.org>
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:43:13AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com> wrote:
> >
> > One tricky point are directory dentries: As far as I see, they are
> > pinned and unfreeable if a (freeable) directory entry is in the cache.
> >
>
> Well. That's the whole problem.
>
> I don't think it's been demonstrated that Ted's problem was caused by
> internal fragementation, btw. Ted, could you run slabtop, see what the
> dcache occupancy is? Monitor it as you start to manually apply pressure?
> If the occupancy falls to 10% and not many slab pages are freed up yet then
> yup, it's internal fragmentation.
The next time I can get my machine into that state, sure, I'll try it.
I used to be able to reproduce it using normal laptop usage patterns
(Lotus notes running under wine, kernel builds, apt-get upgrade's,
openoffice, firefox, etc.) about twice a week with 2.6.13-rc5, but
with 2.6.13, it happened once or twice, but since then I haven't been
able to trigger it. (Predictably, not after I posted about it on
LKML. :-/)
I've been trying a few things in the hopes of deliberately triggering
it, but so far, no luck. Maybe I should go back to 2.6.13-rc5 and see
if I have an easier time of reproducing the failure case.
- Ted
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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
ak@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com, bharata@in.ibm.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:44:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050914224456.GA32082@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050914024313.1e70f2a3.akpm@osdl.org>
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:43:13AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com> wrote:
> >
> > One tricky point are directory dentries: As far as I see, they are
> > pinned and unfreeable if a (freeable) directory entry is in the cache.
> >
>
> Well. That's the whole problem.
>
> I don't think it's been demonstrated that Ted's problem was caused by
> internal fragementation, btw. Ted, could you run slabtop, see what the
> dcache occupancy is? Monitor it as you start to manually apply pressure?
> If the occupancy falls to 10% and not many slab pages are freed up yet then
> yup, it's internal fragmentation.
The next time I can get my machine into that state, sure, I'll try it.
I used to be able to reproduce it using normal laptop usage patterns
(Lotus notes running under wine, kernel builds, apt-get upgrade's,
openoffice, firefox, etc.) about twice a week with 2.6.13-rc5, but
with 2.6.13, it happened once or twice, but since then I haven't been
able to trigger it. (Predictably, not after I posted about it on
LKML. :-/)
I've been trying a few things in the hopes of deliberately triggering
it, but so far, no luck. Maybe I should go back to 2.6.13-rc5 and see
if I have an easier time of reproducing the failure case.
- Ted
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-14 22:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-11 10:57 VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-11 12:00 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-11 12:00 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-12 3:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-12 3:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-12 6:16 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-09-12 6:16 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-09-12 12:53 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-12 12:53 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-13 8:47 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-13 21:59 ` David Chinner
2005-09-13 21:59 ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 9:01 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-14 9:01 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-14 9:16 ` Manfred Spraul
2005-09-14 9:16 ` Manfred Spraul
2005-09-14 9:43 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 9:43 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 9:52 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-14 9:52 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-14 22:44 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2005-09-14 22:44 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-14 9:35 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 9:35 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 13:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-09-14 13:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-09-14 15:37 ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-14 15:37 ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-15 7:21 ` Helge Hafting
2005-09-15 7:21 ` Helge Hafting
2005-09-14 22:48 ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 22:48 ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 15:48 ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-14 15:48 ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-14 22:02 ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 22:02 ` David Chinner
2005-09-14 22:40 ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-14 22:40 ` Sonny Rao
2005-09-15 1:14 ` David Chinner
2005-09-15 1:14 ` David Chinner
2005-10-06 6:27 ` [PATCH] dcache: separate slab for directory dentries David Chinner, gnb
2005-10-06 12:28 ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-10-07 3:54 ` Greg Banks
2005-10-07 13:00 ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-09-14 21:34 ` VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough Marcelo Tosatti
2005-09-14 21:34 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-09-14 21:43 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-14 21:43 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-15 4:28 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-15 4:28 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-14 23:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-09-14 23:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-09-15 9:39 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-15 9:39 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-09-15 13:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-09-15 13:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-10-02 16:32 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-10-02 20:06 ` Marcelo
2005-10-02 20:06 ` Marcelo
2005-10-04 13:36 ` shrinkable cache statistics [was Re: VM balancing issues on 2.6.13: dentry cache not getting shrunk enough] Bharata B Rao
2005-10-05 21:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-10-05 21:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-10-07 8:12 ` Bharata B Rao
2005-10-07 8:12 ` Bharata B Rao
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