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* What is the vanilla kernel?
@ 2005-10-09 23:48 jeff shia
  2005-10-10  0:20 ` Mark Knecht
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From: jeff shia @ 2005-10-09 23:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Hi,

I googled it but could not find the answer.
Is it the standard linux kernel?
Thank you.

jeffshia

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* Re: What is the vanilla kernel?
  2005-10-09 23:48 What is the vanilla kernel? jeff shia
@ 2005-10-10  0:20 ` Mark Knecht
  2005-10-10 10:25   ` jeff shia
  2005-10-10  0:25 ` Grant Coady
  2005-10-10  6:17 ` Steven Rostedt
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2005-10-10  0:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jeff shia; +Cc: linux-kernel

It's whatever kernel is offered as the main line stable kernel at
www.kernel.org. This kernel will have all the ice cream of Linux
without any of the special flavorings of the different distros.

Hope this helps,
Mark

On 10/9/05, jeff shia <tshxiayu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I googled it but could not find the answer.
> Is it the standard linux kernel?
> Thank you.
>
> jeffshia
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* Re: What is the vanilla kernel?
  2005-10-09 23:48 What is the vanilla kernel? jeff shia
  2005-10-10  0:20 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2005-10-10  0:25 ` Grant Coady
  2005-10-10  6:17 ` Steven Rostedt
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Grant Coady @ 2005-10-10  0:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jeff shia; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:48:27 +0800, jeff shia <tshxiayu@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I googled it but could not find the answer.
>Is it the standard linux kernel?

Yes it is, as opposed to modified distro-supplied kernels.

The term 'vanilla' has been used for a long time, sometimes as 
a synonym for Linus' kernel back when we bounced between vanilla 
or -acX depending on which flavour booted that week...

Grant.


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* Re: What is the vanilla kernel?
  2005-10-09 23:48 What is the vanilla kernel? jeff shia
  2005-10-10  0:20 ` Mark Knecht
  2005-10-10  0:25 ` Grant Coady
@ 2005-10-10  6:17 ` Steven Rostedt
  2005-10-10  6:38   ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
  2005-10-10  7:11   ` Jan Knutar
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2005-10-10  6:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jeff shia; +Cc: linux-kernel


On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, jeff shia wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I googled it but could not find the answer.
> Is it the standard linux kernel?
> Thank you.
>

It's the one with no chocolate syrup ;-)

Actually I just tried googling "define vanilla kernel" and the first hit
was:

"Web definitions for Vanilla kernel" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_kernel
which does have the definition of the "vanilla" kernel.

Hmm, It also says under Maintainers:

2.2 	Marc-Christian Petersen (formerly Alan Cox)

Did Alan Cox change his name? :-)

-- Steve


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* Re: What is the vanilla kernel?
  2005-10-10  6:17 ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2005-10-10  6:38   ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
  2005-10-10  6:55     ` Steven Rostedt
  2005-10-10  7:11   ` Jan Knutar
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Coywolf Qi Hunt @ 2005-10-10  6:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: jeff shia, linux-kernel

On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:17:05AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, jeff shia wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I googled it but could not find the answer.
> > Is it the standard linux kernel?
> > Thank you.
> >
> 
> It's the one with no chocolate syrup ;-)
> 
> Actually I just tried googling "define vanilla kernel" and the first hit
> was:
> 
> "Web definitions for Vanilla kernel" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_kernel
> which does have the definition of the "vanilla" kernel.
> 
> Hmm, It also says under Maintainers:
> 
> 2.2 	Marc-Christian Petersen (formerly Alan Cox)
> 
> Did Alan Cox change his name? :-)

It means Alan Cox was once the maintainer.

		Coywolf

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* Re: What is the vanilla kernel?
  2005-10-10  6:38   ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
@ 2005-10-10  6:55     ` Steven Rostedt
  2005-10-10  9:12       ` Patrick McFarland
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2005-10-10  6:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Coywolf Qi Hunt; +Cc: jeff shia, linux-kernel


On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Coywolf Qi Hunt wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:17:05AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> >
> > Hmm, It also says under Maintainers:
> >
> > 2.2 	Marc-Christian Petersen (formerly Alan Cox)
> >
> > Did Alan Cox change his name? :-)
>
> It means Alan Cox was once the maintainer.
>

:)

After sending this, I told my coworkers: Now watch, I'm going to actually
get a response from some guy telling me that "Alan Cox was once the
maintainer".

I know that! Don't people know what a ":-)" is for?

-- Steve


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* Re: What is the vanilla kernel?
  2005-10-10  6:17 ` Steven Rostedt
  2005-10-10  6:38   ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
@ 2005-10-10  7:11   ` Jan Knutar
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jan Knutar @ 2005-10-10  7:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: jeff shia, linux-kernel

On Monday 10 October 2005 09:17, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> 2.2  Marc-Christian Petersen (formerly Alan Cox)
> 
> Did Alan Cox change his name? :-)

I guess he was the first to blink and change it, to eradicate the confusion
arising from FreeBSD also having an Alan Cox ;-)

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* Re: What is the vanilla kernel?
  2005-10-10  6:55     ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2005-10-10  9:12       ` Patrick McFarland
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Patrick McFarland @ 2005-10-10  9:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: Coywolf Qi Hunt, jeff shia, linux-kernel

On Monday 10 October 2005 02:55 am, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> After sending this, I told my coworkers: Now watch, I'm going to actually
> get a response from some guy telling me that "Alan Cox was once the
> maintainer".

Bonus points for getting the mailing list's own Chinese troll to do it.

-- 
Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || diablod3@gmail.com
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd 
all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989

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* Re: What is the vanilla kernel?
  2005-10-10  0:20 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2005-10-10 10:25   ` jeff shia
  2005-10-10 10:43     ` Stefan Smietanowski
  2005-10-10 10:45     ` James Bruce
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: jeff shia @ 2005-10-10 10:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Knecht; +Cc: linux-kernel

I still have some questions.
The stable kernel is called vanilla?but the file name is linux-version.tar.gz?
Such as the kenrel linux-2.6.8.tar.gz can be called a vanilla?
Thank you. :-)

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* Re: What is the vanilla kernel?
  2005-10-10 10:25   ` jeff shia
@ 2005-10-10 10:43     ` Stefan Smietanowski
  2005-10-10 10:45     ` James Bruce
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Smietanowski @ 2005-10-10 10:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jeff shia; +Cc: Mark Knecht, linux-kernel

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jeff shia wrote:
> I still have some questions.
> The stable kernel is called vanilla?but the file name is linux-version.tar.gz?
> Such as the kenrel linux-2.6.8.tar.gz can be called a vanilla?
> Thank you. :-)

Vanilla is just what people call it. You might call your car Betty, that
doesn't mean it's made by the Betty Corporation nor that the model is
Betty. It's simply what people call it.

Just like in Texas Hold'Em, if you get two aces before the flop people
call them "American Airlines" (AA), that doesn't make it the official
name.

So yes, linux-2.6.8.tar.gz is vanilla. linux-2.6.8-mm1.tar.gz isn't
vanilla.

Vanilla simply means "standard" or "unpatched" or "Linus Edition".

// Stefan
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* Re: What is the vanilla kernel?
  2005-10-10 10:25   ` jeff shia
  2005-10-10 10:43     ` Stefan Smietanowski
@ 2005-10-10 10:45     ` James Bruce
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: James Bruce @ 2005-10-10 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jeff shia; +Cc: Mark Knecht, linux-kernel

jeff shia wrote:
> I still have some questions.
> The stable kernel is called vanilla?but the file name is linux-version.tar.gz?
> Such as the kenrel linux-2.6.8.tar.gz can be called a vanilla?

The term "vanilla" is short for "plain vanilla", which means lacking in 
adornments or extra features.  It is derived from the use of vanilla as 
a basic flavor in deserts to which other optional flavors may be added. 
  For the kernel, vanilla simply refers to Linus' kernel with no extra 
patches applied to it.

Example:
   2.6.13 is a vanilla kernel
   2.6.13-rt3 is not (it's vanilla 2.6.13 + rt patches)

  - Jim Bruce

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2005-10-09 23:48 What is the vanilla kernel? jeff shia
2005-10-10  0:20 ` Mark Knecht
2005-10-10 10:25   ` jeff shia
2005-10-10 10:43     ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-10-10 10:45     ` James Bruce
2005-10-10  0:25 ` Grant Coady
2005-10-10  6:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-10-10  6:38   ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
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