From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
zippel@linux-m68k.org, ak@suse.de, rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk,
tony.luck@gmail.com, paolo.ciarrocchi@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New (now current development process)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:08:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051101140813.GP8009@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051031163408.41a266f3.akpm@osdl.org>
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 04:34:08PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > >
> > > Are you sure these kernels are feature-equivalent?
> >
> > They may not be feature-equivalent in reality, but it's hard to generate
> > something that has the features (or lack there-of) of old kernels these
> > days. Which is problematic.
>
> Probably.
>
> > But some of it is likely also compilers. gcc does insane padding in many
> > cases these days.
>
> 2.6.14 `make allnoconfig':
>
> gcc-2.95.4:
>
> bix:/usr/src/25> size vmlinux
> text data bss dec hex filename
> 665502 152379 55120 873001 d5229 vmlinux
>
> gcc version 4.1.0 20050513 (experimental):
>
> bix:/usr/src/25> size vmlinux
> text data bss dec hex filename
> 761415 151851 55280 968546 ec762 vmlinux
That's not a fair comparison.
If you do not tell gcc to optimize for size you can't expect it to
produce small code.
The following is with allnoconfig + CONFIG_EMBEDDED=y + intelligent
setting of the options shown by "make oldconfig" after setting
CONFIG_EMBEDDED=y (the third kernel is built without
-fno-unit-at-a-time):
text data bss dec hex filename
522545 77694 31256 631495 9a2c7 vmlinux-2.95
436878 76594 32248 545720 853b8 vmlinux-4.0
429420 76370 32184 537974 83576 vmlinux-4.0-unit-at-a-time
> (There's a new reason for retaining gcc-2.95.x support)
>...
There's a new reason for removing gcc-2.95.x support. ;-)
cu
Adrian
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-01 14:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-29 17:26 New (now current development process) Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-10-29 18:57 ` Tony Luck
2005-10-29 19:51 ` Russell King
2005-10-29 20:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-29 20:44 ` Akula2
2005-10-29 23:28 ` Greg KH
2005-10-29 22:29 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-29 22:37 ` Russell King
2005-10-30 19:12 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-30 21:43 ` Russell King
2005-10-30 22:31 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-30 22:45 ` Russell King
2005-10-30 22:55 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-30 23:17 ` Russell King
2005-10-31 0:48 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-31 0:16 ` Russell King
2005-10-31 1:22 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31 2:41 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-31 6:34 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-10-31 7:07 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31 23:58 ` Roman Zippel
2005-11-01 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-01 0:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-01 0:34 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-01 0:59 ` Grant Coady
2005-11-01 14:08 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2005-11-01 15:15 ` Nix
2005-11-01 15:26 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-02 5:01 ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-02 5:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-02 5:56 ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-02 6:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-02 6:15 ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-02 15:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-02 17:48 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-02 18:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-02 20:11 ` David Lang
2005-11-02 22:31 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-11-03 18:54 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-02 23:11 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-04 22:08 ` Tim Bird
2005-11-04 22:35 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-04 23:33 ` Tim Bird
2005-11-02 15:41 ` Andreas Kleen
2005-11-01 7:52 ` Russell King
2005-11-01 9:09 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-01 14:15 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-01 0:17 ` Roman Zippel
2005-11-01 0:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-10-31 1:10 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31 5:05 ` Rob Landley
2005-10-31 7:17 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31 8:47 ` Rogério Brito
2005-10-31 9:54 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-02 5:04 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-30 21:32 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-10-31 0:45 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-31 0:18 ` Al Viro
2005-10-31 3:14 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31 3:34 ` Al Viro
2005-10-31 6:17 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31 7:22 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31 7:27 ` Al Viro
2005-10-31 8:19 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-02 4:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 4:49 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-31 4:52 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-02 14:44 ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-30 1:12 ` Tony Luck
2005-10-31 6:41 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-11-07 4:54 ` Eric Sandall
2005-11-07 16:12 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2005-11-07 17:11 ` Christopher Friesen
2005-11-07 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-07 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-07 20:34 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-11-07 18:25 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2005-10-30 0:37 ` Jesper Juhl
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