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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>,
	Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>,
	Frank Sorenson <frank@tuxrocks.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:50:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051206105054.GA29002@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0512061130410.1609@scrub.home>


* Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> > > > I'm thinking about moving the leap second handling to a timer, with the 
> > > > new timer system it would be easy to set a timer for e.g. 23:59.59 and 
> > > > then set the time. This way it would be gone from the common path and it 
> > > > wouldn't matter that much anymore whether it's used or not.
> > > 
> > > Will the timer solution guarantee consistent and exact updates?
> > 
> > it would still be dependent on system-load situations.
> 
> Interrupt-load, actually.

yeah. To a smaller degree it would be dependent on generic system-load 
too. E.g. if some code keeps interrupts disabled for too long. But the 
main delay potential is from other interrupts, or from having too many 
timers to process.

> > It's an 
> > interesting idea to use a timer for that, but there is no strict 
> > synchronization between "get time of day" and "timer execution", so any 
> > timer-based leap-second handling would be fundamentally asynchronous. I 
> > dont think we want that, leap second handling should be a synchronous 
> > property of 'time'.
> 
> I'm not really sure what you're talking about. [...]

doh, it was too early in the morning. Of course xtime is driven by 
interrupts just as much, so time updates are already 'asynchronous' and 
subject to interrupt delays. So your idea is perfectly fine.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-06 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-02  3:25 [PATCH 0/13] Time: Generic Timeofday Subsystem (v B12) john stultz
2005-12-02  3:25 ` [PATCH 1/13] Time: Reduced NTP rework (part 1) john stultz
2005-12-02  3:26 ` [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2) john stultz
2005-12-03  0:19   ` George Anzinger
2005-12-03  0:35     ` john stultz
2005-12-05  7:59     ` Ulrich Windl
2005-12-06 20:26       ` George Anzinger
2005-12-07  7:33         ` Ulrich Windl
2005-12-05 10:35     ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-06  7:10       ` Ulrich Windl
2005-12-06  7:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-06 10:35           ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-06 10:50             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-12-07  7:23             ` Ulrich Windl
2005-12-02  3:26 ` [PATCH 3/13] Time: Clocksource Infrastructure john stultz
2005-12-02  3:26 ` [PATCH 4/13] Time: Generic Timekeeping Infrastructure john stultz
2005-12-02  3:26 ` [PATCH 5/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 1: Move timer_pit.c to i8253.c john stultz
2005-12-02  3:26 ` [PATCH 6/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 2: Move timer_tsc.c to tsc.c john stultz
2005-12-02  3:26 ` [PATCH 7/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 3: Rework TSC Support john stultz
2005-12-02  3:26 ` [PATCH 8/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 4: ACPI PM variable renaming john stultz
2005-12-02  3:26 ` [PATCH 9/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 5: Enable Generic Timekeeping john stultz
2005-12-02  3:27 ` [PATCH 10/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 6: Remove Old Code john stultz
2005-12-02  3:27 ` [PATCH 11/13] Time: i386/x86-64 Clocksource Drivers john stultz
2005-12-02  3:27 ` [PATCH 12/13] Time: x86-64 Conversion to Generic Timekeeping john stultz
2005-12-02  3:27 ` [PATCH 13/13] Time: Generic Timekeeping Paraniod Debug Patch john stultz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-15  2:00 [PATCH 0/13] Time: Generic Timeofday Subsystem (v B14) john stultz
2005-12-15  2:00 ` [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2) john stultz
2005-12-06  4:13 [PATCH 0/13] Time: Generic Timeofday Subsystem (v B13) john stultz
2005-12-06  4:14 ` [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2) john stultz
2005-11-22  1:35 [PATCH 0/13] Time: Generic Timeofday Subsystem (v B11) john stultz
2005-11-22  1:35 ` [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2) john stultz
2005-11-26 14:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-12  4:48 [PATCH 0/13] Time: Generic Timeofday Subsystem (v B10) john stultz
2005-11-12  4:49 ` [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2) john stultz

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