From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>,
Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>,
Frank Sorenson <frank@tuxrocks.com>,
Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2)
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 12:26:36 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4395F3FC.6030301@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4394018D.19764.2440ED5D@Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de>
Ulrich Windl wrote:
> On 2 Dec 2005 at 16:19, George Anzinger wrote:
>
>
>>john stultz wrote:
>>
>>>All,
>>> Here is the second of two patches which try to minimize my ntp rework
>>>patches.
>>>
>>>This patch further changes the interrupt time NTP code, breaking out the
>>>leapsecond processing and introduces an accessor to a shifted ppm
>>
>>In a discusson aroung the leapsecond and how to disable it (some folks
>>don't want the time jump) it came to light that, for the most part,
>>this is unused code. It requires that time be kept in UST to be
>>useful and, from what I can tell, most folks keep time in their local
>>timezone, thus, effectively, disableing the usage of the leapsecond
>>correction (ntp figures this out and just says "no"). Possibly it is
>>time to ask if we should keep this in the kernel at all.
>
>
> I think this is not a question at all whether people like leap seconds or not:
> Either they want to have the current official time, or they do not. If they do
> not, they won't care about NTP; if they do they'd use it.
>
> If they don't like leap seconds, they'd go into politics to forbid them by law.
I don't think that is what happens now. Rather the leapsecond is not
requested by ntp and either a) ntp sets the clock at the required time
or b) it "creeps" it ahead or back by one second over a somewhat
longer time. It is behavior b) that I have found some folks want. In
no case do I see anyone wanting to drop the leapsecond, they just
don't want the discontinuity it introduces and are willing to be a
second (or if done properly, half a second) away from the correct time
for a period of time around the official leapsecond.
--
George Anzinger george@mvista.com
HRT (High-res-timers): http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-06 20:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-02 3:25 [PATCH 0/13] Time: Generic Timeofday Subsystem (v B12) john stultz
2005-12-02 3:25 ` [PATCH 1/13] Time: Reduced NTP rework (part 1) john stultz
2005-12-02 3:26 ` [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2) john stultz
2005-12-03 0:19 ` George Anzinger
2005-12-03 0:35 ` john stultz
2005-12-05 7:59 ` Ulrich Windl
2005-12-06 20:26 ` George Anzinger [this message]
2005-12-07 7:33 ` Ulrich Windl
2005-12-05 10:35 ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-06 7:10 ` Ulrich Windl
2005-12-06 7:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-06 10:35 ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-06 10:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 7:23 ` Ulrich Windl
2005-12-02 3:26 ` [PATCH 3/13] Time: Clocksource Infrastructure john stultz
2005-12-02 3:26 ` [PATCH 4/13] Time: Generic Timekeeping Infrastructure john stultz
2005-12-02 3:26 ` [PATCH 5/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 1: Move timer_pit.c to i8253.c john stultz
2005-12-02 3:26 ` [PATCH 6/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 2: Move timer_tsc.c to tsc.c john stultz
2005-12-02 3:26 ` [PATCH 7/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 3: Rework TSC Support john stultz
2005-12-02 3:26 ` [PATCH 8/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 4: ACPI PM variable renaming john stultz
2005-12-02 3:26 ` [PATCH 9/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 5: Enable Generic Timekeeping john stultz
2005-12-02 3:27 ` [PATCH 10/13] Time: i386 Conversion - part 6: Remove Old Code john stultz
2005-12-02 3:27 ` [PATCH 11/13] Time: i386/x86-64 Clocksource Drivers john stultz
2005-12-02 3:27 ` [PATCH 12/13] Time: x86-64 Conversion to Generic Timekeeping john stultz
2005-12-02 3:27 ` [PATCH 13/13] Time: Generic Timekeeping Paraniod Debug Patch john stultz
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-15 2:00 [PATCH 0/13] Time: Generic Timeofday Subsystem (v B14) john stultz
2005-12-15 2:00 ` [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2) john stultz
2005-12-06 4:13 [PATCH 0/13] Time: Generic Timeofday Subsystem (v B13) john stultz
2005-12-06 4:14 ` [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2) john stultz
2005-11-22 1:35 [PATCH 0/13] Time: Generic Timeofday Subsystem (v B11) john stultz
2005-11-22 1:35 ` [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2) john stultz
2005-11-26 14:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-12 4:48 [PATCH 0/13] Time: Generic Timeofday Subsystem (v B10) john stultz
2005-11-12 4:49 ` [PATCH 2/13] Time: Reduced NTP Rework (part 2) john stultz
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