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From: Michael Buesch <mbuesch@freenet.de>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, bcrl@linux.intel.com,
	matthew@wil.cx, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	linuxppc64-dev@ozlabs.org, jblunck@suse.de,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Memory barriers and spin_unlock safety
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 03:04:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603050304.41436.mbuesch@freenet.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17417.29375.87604.537434@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>

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On Saturday 04 March 2006 11:58, you wrote:
> Linus Torvalds writes:
> 
> > PPC has an absolutely _horrible_ memory ordering implementation, as far as 
> > I can tell. The thing is broken. I think it's just implementation 
> > breakage, not anything really fundamental, but the fact that their write 
> > barriers are expensive is a big sign that they are doing something bad. 
> 
> An smp_wmb() is just an eieio on PPC, which is pretty cheap.  I made
> wmb() be a sync though, because it seemed that there were drivers that
> expected wmb() to provide an ordering between a write to memory and a
> write to an MMIO register.  If that is a bogus assumption then we
> could make wmb() lighter-weight (after auditing all the drivers we're
> interested in, of course, ...).

In the bcm43xx driver there is code which looks like the following:

/* Write some coherent DMA memory */
wmb();
/* Write MMIO, which depends on the DMA memory
 * write to be finished.
 */

Are the assumptions in this code correct? Is wmb() the correct thing
to do here?
I heavily tested this code on PPC UP and did not see any anormaly, yet.

-- 
Greetings Michael.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-05  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-03 16:03 Memory barriers and spin_unlock safety David Howells
2006-03-03 16:45 ` David Howells
2006-03-03 17:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03 20:17     ` David Howells
2006-03-03 21:34       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03 21:51         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-03 22:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03 22:36             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-07 17:36       ` David Howells
2006-03-07 17:40         ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-03-07 17:56           ` Jesse Barnes
2006-03-07 18:18         ` Alan Cox
2006-03-07 18:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-07 18:55             ` Alan Cox
2006-03-07 20:21               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-06  9:06     ` Helge Hafting
2006-03-03 20:02   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-03 16:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03 20:15   ` David Howells
2006-03-03 21:31     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03 21:06   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-03-03 21:18     ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-03-03 21:52       ` David S. Miller
2006-03-03 22:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-04 10:58     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-04 22:49       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-03-04 10:58   ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-04 17:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-08  3:20       ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-08  3:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-08 13:12           ` Alan Cox
2006-03-08 15:30             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-05  2:04     ` Michael Buesch [this message]
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     [not found]         ` <5NY0h-7wa-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-03-11  1:19           ` Robert Hancock
2006-03-12 18:09             ` Alan Cox

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