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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Cc: virtualization@lists.osdl.org, Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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	Dan Arai <arai@vmware.com>, Anne Holler <anne@vmware.com>,
	Pratap Subrahmanyam <pratap@vmware.com>,
	Christopher Li <chrisl@vmware.com>,
	Joshua LeVasseur <jtl@ira.uka.de>, Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>,
	Rik Van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Jyothy Reddy <jreddy@vmware.com>,
	Jack Lo <jlo@vmware.com>, Kip Macy <kmacy@fsmware.com>,
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	Ky Srinivasan <ksrinivasan@novell.com>,
	Wim Coekaerts <wim.coekaerts@oracle.com>,
	Leendert van Doorn <leendert@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH 1/24] i386 Vmi documentation
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:13:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603222213.45910.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060322213435.GI15997@sorel.sous-sol.org>

On Wednesday 22 March 2006 22:34, Chris Wright wrote:
> * Andi Kleen (ak@suse.de) wrote:
> > On Monday 13 March 2006 18:59, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> > 
> > > +     The general mechanism for providing customized features and
> > > +     capabilities is to provide notification of these feature through
> > > +     the CPUID call, 
> > 
> > How should that work since CPUID cannot be intercepted by 
> > a Hypervisor (without VMX/SVM)?  
> 
> Yeah, it requires guest kernel cooperation/modification.

Even then it's useless for many flags because any user program can (and will) 
call CPUID directly. 
 
> > > +   The net result of these choices is that most of the calls are very
> > > +   easy to make from C-code, and calls that are likely to be required in
> > > +   low level trap handling code are easy to call from assembler.   Most
> > > +   of these calls are also very easily implemented by the hypervisor
> > > +   vendor in C code, and only the performance critical calls from
> > > +   assembler paths require custom assembly implementations.
> > > +
> > > +   CORE INTERFACE CALLS
> > 
> > Did I miss it or do you never describe how to find these entry points? 
> 
> It's the ROM interface.  For native they are emitted directly inline.
> For non-native, they are emitted as call stubs, which call to the ROM.
> I don't recall if it's in this doc, but the inline patch has all the
> gory details.

Sure the point was if they write this long fancy document why stop
at documenting the last 5%?

-Andi
 

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-22 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-13 17:59 [RFC, PATCH 1/24] i386 Vmi documentation Zachary Amsden
2006-03-13 22:49 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-14  0:00   ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-14 21:27     ` Chris Wright
2006-03-14 22:29       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-15  2:57         ` Chris Wright
2006-03-15  5:44           ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-15 22:56           ` Daniel Arai
2006-03-16  1:16       ` Chris Wright
2006-03-16  3:40         ` Eli Collins
2006-03-16  3:40           ` Eli Collins
2006-03-14  4:11 ` Rik van Riel
2006-03-22 20:05 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 21:34   ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 21:13     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-03-22 21:57       ` Chris Wright
2006-03-23  0:06       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 21:39   ` [RFC, PATCH 1/24] i386 Vmi documentation II Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 22:43     ` Daniel Arai
2006-03-22 22:45     ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 22:38       ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 23:54         ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 23:37           ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 22:04   ` [RFC, PATCH 1/24] i386 Vmi documentation Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 21:58     ` Andi Kleen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-13 18:41 Zachary Amsden

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