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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] splice support #2
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:16:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060330121638.GA13476@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060330121030.GA14621@elte.hu>

On Thu, Mar 30 2006, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 30 2006, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > * Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > This patch should resolve all issues mentioned so far. I'd still like 
> > > > to implement the page moving, but that should just be a separate 
> > > > patch.
> > > 
> > > neat stuff. One question: why do we require fdin or fdout to be a pipe?  
> > > Is there any fundamental problem with implementing what Larry's original 
> > > paper described too: straight pagecache -> socket transfers? Without a
> > > pipe intermediary forced inbetween. It only adds unnecessary overhead.
> > 
> > No, not a fundamental problem. I think I even hid that in some comment 
> > in there, at least if it's decipharable by someone else than myself... 
> > Basically I think it would be nice in the future to tidy this a little 
> > bit and separate the actual container from the pipe itself - and have 
> > the pipe just fill/use the same container.
> 
> why is there a container needed at all? If i splice pagecache->socket, 
> we can use sendpage to send it off immediately. There is no need for any 
> container - both the pagecache and sendpage use struct page, and when we 
> iterate to create a container we might as well ->sendpage() those pages 
> off immediately instead.
> 
> I agree with the purpose of making sys_splice() generic and in 
> particular usable in scripts/shells where pipes are commonly used, but 
> we should also fulfill the original promise (outlined 15 years ago or 
> so) and not limit this to pipes. That way i could improve TUX to make 
> use of it for example ;)

There's absolutely no reason why we can't add fd -> fd splicing as well,
so no worries. Right now we just require a pipe transport. It's
extendable :-)

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-30 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-30 10:06 [PATCH] splice support #2 Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 10:16 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 10:24   ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 11:16     ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 11:55       ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:30         ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:30           ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 19:19           ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 12:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 12:05   ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 12:16       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-03-30 12:38         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 12:42           ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:42             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 13:02               ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 14:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-03-30 17:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-30 17:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-31 20:38         ` Hua Zhong
2006-03-31 20:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-30 20:48       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-30 21:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-31  0:59           ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31  2:43             ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-31  2:51               ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-31  3:20                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31  6:35                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-03-31  7:09           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-02 22:33             ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-31 12:46           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-03-31  9:56       ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:18       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-31 12:23         ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:26           ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:47             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-31 18:18               ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:27       ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-31  0:03 linux
2006-03-31  6:06 tridge
2006-03-31  6:59 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-03-31  7:37   ` tridge
2006-03-31  9:57 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 19:11   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-31 19:40     ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-04 17:16       ` Andy Lutomirski
2006-04-04 17:34         ` Jens Axboe
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2006-04-03 12:39               ` Bodo Eggert

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