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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] splice support #2
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:27:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060331122731.GA13814@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603300853190.27203@g5.osdl.org>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:

> The reason it goes through a pipe is two-fold:
> 
>  - the pipe _is_ the buffer. The reason sendfile() sucks is that sendfile 
>    cannot work with <n> different buffer representations. sendfile() only 
>    works with _one_ buffer representation, namely the "page cache of the 
>    file".

The main problem of sendfile() is that it exposes an incoming-fd 
'offset', which pretty much hardcodes the assumption that the incoming 
file is a pagecache-backed object. I believe the flush_fd solution to 
sys_splice() would solve that range of problems, and thus slice could be 
used for offset-less file objects too.

all the remaining problems of sendfile() just derive from this basic 
pagecache assumption that is hardcoded in the ABI. Once this one is 
overcome (and i believe fd_flush overcomes it), there's no reason why we 
couldnt implement the complete range of sys_splice() transfers.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-31 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-30 10:06 [PATCH] splice support #2 Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 10:16 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 10:24   ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 11:16     ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 11:55       ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:30         ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:30           ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 19:19           ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 12:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 12:05   ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 12:16       ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:38         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 12:42           ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:42             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 13:02               ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 14:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-03-30 17:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-30 17:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-31 20:38         ` Hua Zhong
2006-03-31 20:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-30 20:48       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-30 21:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-31  0:59           ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31  2:43             ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-31  2:51               ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-31  3:20                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31  6:35                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-03-31  7:09           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-02 22:33             ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-31 12:46           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-03-31  9:56       ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:18       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-31 12:23         ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:26           ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:47             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-31 18:18               ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:27       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-31  0:03 linux
2006-03-31  6:06 tridge
2006-03-31  6:59 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-03-31  7:37   ` tridge
2006-03-31  9:57 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 19:11   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-31 19:40     ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-04 17:16       ` Andy Lutomirski
2006-04-04 17:34         ` Jens Axboe
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     [not found] ` <5W48C-3KW-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <5W48D-3KW-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <5W8OT-2ms-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]         ` <5WcIT-8nr-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <5Wm5I-53z-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <5XjoS-8t9-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-04-03 12:39               ` Bodo Eggert

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