From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Erik Mouw <erik@harddisk-recovery.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Jason Schoonover <jasons@pioneer-pra.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: High load average on disk I/O on 2.6.17-rc3
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 17:47:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060508164705.GC19040@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060508154217.GH1875@harddisk-recovery.com>
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 05:42:18PM +0200, Erik Mouw wrote:
> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 05:31:29PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 17:22 +0200, Erik Mouw wrote:
> > > ... except that any kernel < 2.6 didn't account tasks waiting for disk
> > > IO.
> >
> > they did. It was "D" state, which counted into load average.
>
> They did not or at least to a much lesser extent. That's the reason why
> ZenIV.linux.org.uk had a mail DoS during the last FC release and why we
> see load average questions on lkml.
>
> I've seen it on our servers as well: when using 2.4 and doing 50 MB/s
> to disk (through NFS), the load just was slightly above 0. When we
> switched the servers to 2.6 it went to ~16 for the same disk usage.
It's actually rather interesting to look at 2.6 and load averages.
The load average appears to depend on the type of load, rather than
the real load. Let's look at three different cases:
1. while (1) { } loop in a C program.
Starting off with a load average of 0.00 with a "watch uptime" running
(and leaving that running for several minutes), then starting such a
program, and letting it run for one minute.
Result: load average at the end: 0.60
2. a program which runs continuously for 6 seconds and then sleeps for
54 seconds.
Result: load average peaks at 0.12, drops to 0.05 just before it
runs for a second 6 second.
ps initially reports 100% CPU usage, drops to 10% after one minute,
rises to 18% and drops back towards 10%, and gradually settles on
10%.
3. a program which runs for 1 second and then sleeps for 9 seconds.
Result: load average peaks at 0.22, drops to 0.15 just before it
runs for the next second.
ps reports 10% CPU usage.
Okay, so, two different CPU work loads without any other IO, using the
same total amount of CPU time every minute seem to produce two very
different load averages. In addition, using 100% CPU for one minute
does not produce a load average of 1.
Seems to me that somethings wrong somewhere. Either that or the first
load average number no longer represents the load over the past one
minute.
--
Russell King
Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
maintainer of: 2.6 Serial core
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-08 16:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-05 17:10 High load average on disk I/O on 2.6.17-rc3 Jason Schoonover
2006-05-06 23:03 ` bert hubert
2006-05-07 1:02 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-07 10:54 ` bert hubert
2006-05-07 16:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-07 17:24 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-08 11:13 ` Erik Mouw
2006-05-08 11:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08 11:28 ` Russell King
2006-05-08 11:38 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-08 12:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-09 14:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-05-08 14:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-08 14:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08 15:22 ` Erik Mouw
2006-05-08 15:25 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-08 15:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08 15:42 ` Erik Mouw
2006-05-08 16:02 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-08 16:02 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2006-05-08 16:47 ` Russell King [this message]
2006-05-08 17:04 ` Gabor Gombas
2006-05-08 17:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-09 1:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 2:02 ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-09 2:16 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 4:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-09 4:46 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 5:27 ` Hua Zhong
2006-05-09 5:03 ` David Lang
2006-05-15 7:46 ` Sander
2006-05-08 22:24 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-05-08 22:39 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-09 0:08 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-09 18:33 ` Bill Davidsen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-05 17:58 Jason Schoonover
[not found] <69c8K-3Bu-57@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-05-05 23:12 ` Robert Hancock
2006-05-06 4:39 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-06 17:20 ` Robert Hancock
2006-05-06 18:23 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-06 20:01 ` Robert Hancock
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