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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-pm@osdl.org, Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mattia Dongili <malattia@linux.it>,
	pavel@suse.cz, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] get USB suspend to work again on 2.6.17-mm1
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:38:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200606230838.57957.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0606231028570.5966-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Friday 23 June 2006 7:51 am, Alan Stern wrote:

> Ah, there's the rub.  If a driver doesn't have suspend/resume methods, is 
> it because it doesn't need them, or is it because nobody has written them 
> yet?  In the latter case, failing the suspend or unbinding the driver are 
> the only safe courses.

I think the former would ba a dangerous assumption ... in the category
of "intermittent bugs triggering later on" rather than "easily reproduced
bugs triggering right at the trouble spot" (like the latter).

- Dave

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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-pm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mattia Dongili <malattia@linux.it>,
	pavel@suse.cz, Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] get USB suspend to work again on 2.6.17-mm1
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:38:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200606230838.57957.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0606231028570.5966-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Friday 23 June 2006 7:51 am, Alan Stern wrote:

> Ah, there's the rub.  If a driver doesn't have suspend/resume methods, is 
> it because it doesn't need them, or is it because nobody has written them 
> yet?  In the latter case, failing the suspend or unbinding the driver are 
> the only safe courses.

I think the former would ba a dangerous assumption ... in the category
of "intermittent bugs triggering later on" rather than "easily reproduced
bugs triggering right at the trouble spot" (like the latter).

- Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-23 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-22 20:29 [PATCH] get USB suspend to work again on 2.6.17-mm1 Greg KH
2006-06-22 21:27 ` Jiri Slaby
2006-06-22 21:27   ` Jiri Slaby
2006-06-22 21:28 ` Mattia Dongili
2006-06-22 21:28   ` Mattia Dongili
2006-06-22 21:34 ` Mattia Dongili
2006-06-22 21:34   ` Mattia Dongili
2006-06-22 23:24 ` David Brownell
2006-06-22 23:24   ` David Brownell
2006-06-22 23:51   ` Greg KH
2006-06-22 23:51     ` Greg KH
2006-06-23  2:45     ` Alan Stern
2006-06-23  2:45       ` Alan Stern
2006-06-23  4:26       ` Greg KH
2006-06-23  4:26         ` Greg KH
2006-06-23 14:28         ` Alan Stern
2006-06-23 14:28           ` Alan Stern
2006-06-23  3:34     ` David Brownell
2006-06-23  3:34       ` David Brownell
2006-06-23  4:24       ` Greg KH
2006-06-23  4:24         ` Greg KH
2006-06-23 14:51         ` Alan Stern
2006-06-23 14:51           ` Alan Stern
2006-06-23 15:38           ` David Brownell [this message]
2006-06-23 15:38             ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2006-06-26 23:57           ` Greg KH
2006-06-26 23:57             ` Greg KH
2006-06-27  2:04             ` David Brownell
2006-06-27  2:04               ` David Brownell
2006-06-27 15:24               ` Alan Stern
2006-06-27 15:24                 ` Alan Stern
2006-06-27 23:28                 ` Greg KH
2006-06-27 23:28                   ` Greg KH
2006-06-27 23:26               ` Greg KH
2006-06-27 23:26                 ` Greg KH
2006-06-27  9:03             ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27  9:03               ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 17:38               ` David Brownell
2006-06-27 23:20                 ` Greg KH
2006-06-27 23:20                   ` Greg KH
2006-06-25  2:42       ` [linux-pm] " Jim Gettys
2006-06-25  2:42         ` Jim Gettys
2006-06-25  4:32         ` David Brownell
2006-06-25  4:32           ` David Brownell

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