From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
Cc: Bojan Smojver <bojan@rexursive.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Sunil Kumar <devsku@gmail.com>, Avuton Olrich <avuton@gmail.com>,
Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net,
grundig <grundig@teleline.es>
Subject: Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: uswsusp history lesson
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 00:30:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607100030.44678.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200607100746.25043.ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
On Sunday 09 July 2006 23:46, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> On Monday 10 July 2006 07:36, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Sunday 09 July 2006 23:06, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > ]-- snip --[
> >
> > > > Now there's the separate problem that we have to share _some_ code.
> > > > To an absolute minimum, we have to share the freezer code and the
> > > > code that handles devices, because it's also shared by suspend-to-RAM.
> > > > The code that handles devices is already shared, but we also _have_
> > > > _to_ share the freezer code. Therefore, as long as suspend2 adds some
> > > > code to the freezer, it's not even close to be considerable for
> > > > merging.
(1)
> > >
> > > If Suspend2 added code in a way that broke swsusp, I would agree. But it
> > > doesn't.
> >
> > This is not a matter of any breakage or lack thereof. The problem is that
> > the freezer is _not_ _an_ _swsusp-only_ _code_. It is used by someone else
> > too, and having two different freezers in the tree would be _insane_,
> > because too many things depend on that. This would be like having two
> > different memory management systems, but at a smaller scale.
>
> Please don't start doing what Pavel does, imputing to me motives and ideas
> that are clearly false. You know that I don't want to have two freezer
> implementations - I've never suggested the idea or even thought of it until
> you suggested it.
I was only trying to explain what I meant in (1). Please don't take it
personally, I'm doing my best to make technical points only.
> My desire all along has been to improve what's already
> there, and I still want to do that.
Same here.
> I'm sorry that I'm not submitting and resubmitting things as fast as you'd
> like. Please try to remember that I'm not a full time programmer. I'm working
> for Redhat one day a week and the congregation I serve four days a week.
I'm not a full time programmer too. Now I'm just having some more free
time than usually, that's all.
> Anything I do beyond the one day is purely my time, and I have plenty of
> other things to do too. It's not, therefore, that I want to drag my heels.
> Rather, I simply don't have the time to get things done as quickly as you and
> Pavel seem to be able to.
I didn't mean I'd like you to submit/resubmit things quickly. You'll submit
them when you're ready, be it in a week or in a month, or later. It's all up
to you. :-)
Greetings,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-09 22:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-26 15:47 Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 13:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 15:22 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Brad Campbell
2006-06-27 15:41 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-06-27 16:01 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-06-27 22:23 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:22 ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm) Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:38 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-27 22:51 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 23:18 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 19:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:19 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:24 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:37 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:46 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 23:06 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-28 23:09 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 8:56 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2006-06-28 19:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-06 19:15 ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability Jan Rychter
2006-07-07 13:50 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 14:05 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Rohan Dhruva
2006-07-07 18:21 ` David Fox
2006-07-07 21:42 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:03 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-07 23:19 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 18:03 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:19 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-07 16:09 ` grundig
2006-07-07 17:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 21:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 21:56 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:25 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 23:33 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 0:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 0:28 ` uswsusp history lesson [was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability] Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 3:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 10:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 11:13 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 18:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:35 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:42 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 12:52 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 13:26 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 21:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 18:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 21:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:54 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:02 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 0:09 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 10:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 12:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 21:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 22:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 22:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 23:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-12 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-12 10:16 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 4:33 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-08 11:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 4:58 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 9:11 ` uswsusp history lesson Jan Rychter
2006-07-08 10:14 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 10:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 11:11 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:13 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:16 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 13:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 22:32 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 16:43 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 16:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 17:01 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-08 19:36 ` grundig
2006-07-08 17:49 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 18:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 21:46 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-09 0:19 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 17:39 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-08 23:57 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <ce9ef0d90607080942w685a6b60q7611278856c78ac0@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 16:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 19:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 19:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 20:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 9:11 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-10 9:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-10 10:02 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 21:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 23:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 23:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 12:45 ` Thomas Tuttle
2006-07-10 13:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <ce9ef0d90607081248n1f2fc79fw199b493f3ca6313@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 19:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 20:13 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-08 20:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:46 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 23:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:18 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 0:32 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 1:05 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 13:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:06 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 22:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2006-07-10 3:57 ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-10 6:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 14:47 ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-11 20:13 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-10 0:28 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 12:15 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-07-09 21:04 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 9:10 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-08 0:28 ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability Bojan Smojver
2006-07-07 19:27 ` Hua Zhong
2006-07-07 21:10 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-07 23:48 ` Christian Trefzer
2006-06-27 16:50 ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm dirk husemann
2006-06-27 19:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 19:19 ` Dave Jones
2006-06-27 21:47 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 6:00 ` Brad Campbell
2006-06-28 20:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 6:09 ` Markus Gaugusch
[not found] ` <200606271940.23934.jaroslav@aster.pl>
[not found] ` <1e1a7e1b0606280228y6c4a0d19p12f8112d216d1aba@mail.gmail.com>
2006-06-28 11:31 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Tim Dijkstra
2006-06-27 23:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
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