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From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Bojan Smojver <bojan@rexursive.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Sunil Kumar <devsku@gmail.com>, Avuton Olrich <avuton@gmail.com>,
	Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
	Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net,
	grundig <grundig@teleline.es>
Subject: Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: uswsusp history lesson
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:06:38 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607100706.45789.ncunningham@linuxmail.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200607091551.18456.rjw@sisk.pl>

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Hi.

On Sunday 09 July 2006 23:51, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Sunday 09 July 2006 03:05, Bojan Smojver wrote:
> > On Sun, 2006-07-09 at 02:32 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > I wanted to point out that delay between "okay, I want this gone" and
> > > the code disappearing from kernel tarball is about a year.
> >
> > OK, so the period for this kind of solution(s) to completely go away is
> > even longer.
> >
> > Which brings me to my point. Given that with my proposal you would have
> > zero involvement with Suspend2 code (i.e. you would not be obligated to
> > fix/touch/do anything in *any way*), why not give Nigel a go? The man is
> > obviously willing to do stuff on his own and it won't cost you anything.
>
> The problem is he _can't_ do it on his own if he wants the code merged,
> because for this purpose some people have to review it, and that's not
> only me or Pavel, but also architecture maintainers, memory management
> maintainers, and probably some other people too.  Moreover, Nigel needs
> to address the issues raised by the reviewers.
>
> > And if it doesn't work out - well, though luck for Nigel.
>
> Some people have reviewed some parts of suspend2 recently and there
> were some comments to address.  Now it's up to Nigel to address them or
> not, and that's only the tip of the iceberg.  It'll take quite some time to
> review the entire suspend2 and address all of the issues that people may
> have with it.  This is a long way to go, but I personally am not against
> doing it.
>
> Now there's the separate problem that we have to share _some_ code.
> To an absolute minimum, we have to share the freezer code and the
> code that handles devices, because it's also shared by suspend-to-RAM.
> The code that handles devices is already shared, but we also _have_ _to_
> share the freezer code.  Therefore, as long as suspend2 adds some code
> to the freezer, it's not even close to be considerable for merging.

If Suspend2 added code in a way that broke swsusp, I would agree. But it 
doesn't.

Regards,

Nigel
-- 
Nigel, Michelle and Alisdair Cunningham
5 Mitchell Street
Cobden 3266
Victoria, Australia

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-09 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-26 15:47 Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 13:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 15:22   ` [Suspend2-devel] " Brad Campbell
2006-06-27 15:41     ` Andreas Mohr
2006-06-27 16:01       ` Avuton Olrich
2006-06-27 22:23         ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:22       ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm) Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:38         ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-27 22:51           ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 23:18             ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 19:53               ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:19                 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:24                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:37                     ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:46                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 23:06                         ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:52                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-28 23:09                     ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28  8:56         ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2006-06-28 19:58           ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-06 19:15         ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability Jan Rychter
2006-07-07 13:50           ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 14:05             ` [Suspend2-devel] " Rohan Dhruva
2006-07-07 18:21               ` David Fox
2006-07-07 21:42                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:03             ` dirk husemann
2006-07-07 23:19               ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 18:03             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:18               ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:19           ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-07 16:09             ` grundig
2006-07-07 17:44               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 21:39                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 21:56                   ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:25                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 23:33                       ` [Suspend2-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08  0:04                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08  0:28                         ` uswsusp history lesson [was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability] Pavel Machek
2006-07-08  3:42                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 10:38                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 11:13                               ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 18:34                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:35                                   ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:31                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:42                                 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 12:52                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 13:26                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 21:04                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:25                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 18:52                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 21:10                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:28                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:54                                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09  0:02                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09  0:09                                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 10:03                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 12:45                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 21:54                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 22:01                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 22:34                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 23:00                                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-12 10:09                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-12 10:16                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:22                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08  4:33                           ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-08 11:12                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:21                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08  4:58                           ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08  9:11                           ` uswsusp history lesson Jan Rychter
2006-07-08 10:14                             ` [Suspend2-devel] " Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 10:41                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 11:11                                 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:13                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:16                                     ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:20                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 13:19                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 22:32                                     ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 16:43                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 16:47                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 17:01                                     ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-08 19:36                                       ` grundig
2006-07-08 17:49                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 18:03                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 21:46                                       ` Alan Cox
2006-07-09  0:19                                         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 17:39                                   ` Alan Cox
2006-07-08 23:57                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09  0:03                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                 ` <ce9ef0d90607080942w685a6b60q7611278856c78ac0@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 16:50                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 19:25                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 19:39                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 20:22                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10  9:11                                         ` dirk husemann
2006-07-10  9:18                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-10 10:02                                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 21:49                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 23:22                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 23:37                                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 12:45                                             ` Thomas Tuttle
2006-07-10 13:05                                               ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]                                       ` <ce9ef0d90607081248n1f2fc79fw199b493f3ca6313@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 19:58                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 20:13                                           ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-08 20:23                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:20                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:46                                       ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 23:53                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09  0:18                                           ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09  0:32                                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09  1:05                                               ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 13:51                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:06                                                   ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2006-07-09 21:36                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:46                                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 22:30                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-10  3:57                                                     ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-10  6:20                                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 14:47                                                         ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-11 20:13                                                           ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-10  0:28                                                   ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 12:15                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-07-09 21:04                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10  9:10                                       ` dirk husemann
2006-07-08  0:28                       ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability Bojan Smojver
2006-07-07 19:27           ` Hua Zhong
2006-07-07 21:10             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-07 23:48               ` Christian Trefzer
2006-06-27 16:50     ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm dirk husemann
2006-06-27 19:03     ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 19:19       ` Dave Jones
2006-06-27 21:47         ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28  6:00       ` Brad Campbell
2006-06-28 20:03         ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28  6:09       ` Markus Gaugusch
     [not found]     ` <200606271940.23934.jaroslav@aster.pl>
     [not found]       ` <1e1a7e1b0606280228y6c4a0d19p12f8112d216d1aba@mail.gmail.com>
2006-06-28 11:31         ` [Suspend2-devel] " Tim Dijkstra
2006-06-27 23:37   ` Nigel Cunningham

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