mailinglist owner subscribe?

mailinglist owner subscribe?

[Christian Nygaard]

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How can the mailinglist owner subscribe new members to a mlmmj list?

I've tried chgrp subscribers.d folder and the files in it to list owners
group + emacs to edit them but as soon as someone unsubscribes from the list
the permissions are
changed back to nobody.nobody ownership.

Is there some mailinglist owner command that I missed that can be used?

ezmlm does this by:
mailinglist-subscribe-john=example.net@example.org

Thanks for input,
Chris

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Re: mailinglist owner subscribe?

[Mads Martin Joergensen]

* Christian Nygaard <christiannygaard@gmail.com> [Aug 24. 2006 13:34]:
> How can the mailinglist owner subscribe new members to a mlmmj list?

Use the mlmmj-sub command directly:

$ mlmmj-sub -L /path/to/list -a some@address.org

Look at mlmmj-sub -h for options.

> I've tried chgrp subscribers.d folder and the files in it to list owners
> group + emacs to edit them but as soon as someone unsubscribes from the list
> the permissions are
> changed back to nobody.nobody ownership.

It has to be the ownership of the process running mlmmj.

> Is there some mailinglist owner command that I missed that can be used?
> 
> ezmlm does this by:
> mailinglist-subscribe-john=example.net@example.org

This is not implemented in mlmmj. But since mlmmj uses From: and not
envelope from, you can send a mail to the subscribe address, with the
From: changed.

-- 
Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
 and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
                                 -- A. P. J.

Re: mailinglist owner subscribe?

[Christian Nygaard]

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Thanks Mads!

I will try to have the user use sudo and mlmmj-sub as you described.

Chris

On 8/24/06, Mads Martin Joergensen <mmj@mmj.dk> wrote:
>
> * Christian Nygaard <christiannygaard@gmail.com> [Aug 24. 2006 13:34]:
> > How can the mailinglist owner subscribe new members to a mlmmj list?
>
> Use the mlmmj-sub command directly:
>
> $ mlmmj-sub -L /path/to/list -a some@address.org
>
> Look at mlmmj-sub -h for options.
>
> > I've tried chgrp subscribers.d folder and the files in it to list owners
> > group + emacs to edit them but as soon as someone unsubscribes from the
> list
> > the permissions are
> > changed back to nobody.nobody ownership.
>
> It has to be the ownership of the process running mlmmj.
>
> > Is there some mailinglist owner command that I missed that can be used?
> >
> > ezmlm does this by:
> > mailinglist-subscribe-john=example.net@example.org
>
> This is not implemented in mlmmj. But since mlmmj uses From: and not
> envelope from, you can send a mail to the subscribe address, with the
> From: changed.
>
> --
> Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
> "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
> and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
>                                  -- A. P. J.
>
>

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Re: mailinglist owner subscribe?

[Mads Martin Joergensen]

* Christian Nygaard <christiannygaard@gmail.com> [Aug 24. 2006 14:12]:
> Thanks Mads!
> 
> I will try to have the user use sudo and mlmmj-sub as you described.

Yep. If mlmmj-sub is invoked as root, it'll automatically switch and use
the right permissions.

-- 
Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
 and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
                                 -- A. P. J.

Re: mailinglist owner subscribe?

[Mads Martin Joergensen]

* Mads Martin Joergensen <mmj@mmj.dk> [Aug 24. 2006 14:15]:
> * Christian Nygaard <christiannygaard@gmail.com> [Aug 24. 2006 14:12]:
> > Thanks Mads!
> > 
> > I will try to have the user use sudo and mlmmj-sub as you described.
> 
> Yep. If mlmmj-sub is invoked as root, it'll automatically switch and use
> the right permissions.

Note that there's switched to have mlmmj send welcome or confirmation
mail. If just invoked, it'll just sub without any other action.

-- 
Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
 and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
                                 -- A. P. J.

Re: mailinglist owner subscribe?

[Morten K. Poulsen]

Hi Christian,

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:34:43 +0200, "Christian Nygaard" <christiannygaard@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've tried chgrp subscribers.d folder and the files in it to list owners
> group + emacs to edit them but as soon as someone unsubscribes from the
> list the permissions are changed back to nobody.nobody ownership.

That is because the unsunbscribe process is as follows:

- create a temporary file (which by default is owned by nobody:nobody, if your mail server runs as that)

- copy the subscriber list - minus the newly unsunscribed user - to the temporary file

- rename the temporary file to the name of the old subscriber list

Rename is atomic, so there is no risc of having a broken list if mlmmj crashes or - more likely ;) - a hardware failure occures.

> Is there some mailinglist owner command that I missed that can be used?

If you set the s-bit on a directory (chmod g+s my_dir), files created in that directory will by default have their group set to the directory's group. That will solve your issue.

... or you can just use sudo and mlmmj-sub as Mads Martin suggested :)

Morten

-- 
Morten K. Poulsen <morten@afdelingp.dk>
http://www.afdelingp.dk/