* [lm-sensors] wiki pages - update
@ 2006-08-26 19:10 Rudolf Marek
2006-08-26 20:59 ` Ric
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From: Rudolf Marek @ 2006-08-26 19:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Hi all,
I think we will need some help to fix our wiki pages - especially the inter
pages links.
Are here any volunteers in this list?
Also I thought about some "volunteers from web" what about to use same concept
as wikipedia? Something like "This page needs to be updated" Message on the wiki
page with a link to some page with more info?
I did this for this Wiki page http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/AsusFormulaHacking
We would need to think about some similar user as "ticket" to edit certain wiki
pages. Is this possible?
I have in plan to create a wiki page about the patch review hints. Anything else
what should be in wiki? (Except for neccesary content update?)
Thanks,
Regards
Rudolf
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@ 2006-08-26 20:59 ` Ric
2006-08-26 22:39 ` Ric
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From: Ric @ 2006-08-26 20:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
WIKI pages? What WIKI pages? Last time I went to the home page(in June)
there was no WIKI.
Looking at the new WIKI home page, it appears to be a transfer of the
previous pages but there is still NO mention of '' Hey, we are
transfering all of the info to WIKI '' ... quite confusing.
Is the netroedge no more?
As to volunteer, ... I will assist as much as I can. Fixing links is
no brainer, usually, but I need the background here as to what got
transferred, and what the design intention is. So if you know please
point me to the '' Why we did this Wiki thing '' page or pages so I
know the guidelines.
I have some another project to work on today but will take a look now
and see what is blaringly wrong(besides the fact that there is no news
item of the switch to Wiki on the page).
Regards, Ric
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:10:50 +0200
> From: Rudolf Marek <r.marek at sh.cvut.cz>
> Subject: [lm-sensors] wiki pages - update
> To: LM Sensors <lm-sensors at lm-sensors.org>
> Message-ID: <44F09CBA.60301 at sh.cvut.cz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
>
> Hi all,
>
> I think we will need some help to fix our wiki pages - especially the
> inter
> pages links.
>
> Are here any volunteers in this list?
>
> Also I thought about some "volunteers from web" what about to use
> same concept
> as wikipedia? Something like "This page needs to be updated" Message
> on the wiki page with a link to some page with more info?
>
> I did this for this Wiki page
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/AsusFormulaHacking
>
> We would need to think about some similar user as "ticket" to edit
> certain wiki pages. Is this possible?
>
> I have in plan to create a wiki page about the patch review hints.
> Anything else
> what should be in wiki? (Except for neccesary content update?)
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> Rudolf
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* [lm-sensors] wiki pages - update
2006-08-26 19:10 [lm-sensors] wiki pages - update Rudolf Marek
2006-08-26 20:59 ` Ric
@ 2006-08-26 22:39 ` Ric
2006-08-27 12:17 ` Jean Delvare
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From: Ric @ 2006-08-26 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Hi:
Yep, needs work.
I am DOA for now which is okay since I need to spend some quality time
with the dremel and a SuperMicro SC750 case anyway.
THE biggest problem is that there is not any registration function.
Wikis are for collaborative efforts but apparently Trac does not have a
simple registration function. All I saw was that the admin has to run
an admin script to assign permisssions. I certainly hope that is robust
enough to be automated, :).
I cannot do anything until I can be registered with at least the link
changing function.
I stopped at the FAQ link(s). As more than likely the first place any
user will look for info, if they look at all, ;), it needs to be
available and, I suggest, editable. That presents a Copyright problem.
Copyright (C) 1998 - 2005
Frodo Looijaard,
Philip Edelbrock,
Mark D. Studebaker
and
Jean Delvare
Since that *might* be considered as expired, authors' permissions s/b
all that is needed to adjust it. I saw no 'license' for it; merely the
copyright statement. There is no mention of license anywhere on the FAQ
page.
Is that doc supposed to fall under the GPL as an official part of the
lm_sensors project?
The '' Licensed under GPL '' blurb is missing from the lm_sensors home
page so maybe that sentence s/b added so we all know that code _and_
documents are GPL'd, unless of course somebody wants to license
documents under the GFDL,
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#FDL, or similar. ;)
AS for the FAQ, I suggest a temporary fix by making the Contents list
correct and linked to the current FAQ page, as such:
[code]
Table of Contents
http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw
[FAQ/Chapter1 Chapter 1: Introduction and Overview]
http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#Top
[FAQ/Chapter2 Chapter 2: Sensor and Bus Basics]
http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#toc_Basics
[FAQ/Chapter3 Chapter 3: Installation and Management]
http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#toc_Installation
[FAQ/Chapter3 Chapter 4: Problems]
http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#toc_Problems
[FAQ/Chapter4 Chapter 5: How to Ask for Help]
http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#toc_Help
[FAQ/Chapter5 Chapter 6: How to Contribute]
http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#toc_Contribute
[FAQ/Appendix: Revision history of this document]
http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#Document-Revisions
[/code]
That's pretty easy to do/change on the page and should work until such
time that Registration is available and working securely.
Let me know what is to be done about access for me as well as others
who might contribute to the Wiki.
Regards, Ric
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> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:59:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ric <fhj52rags at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] wiki pages - update
> To: lm-sensors at lm-sensors.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> WIKI pages? What WIKI pages? Last time I went to the home page(in
> June)
> there was no WIKI.
> Looking at the new WIKI home page, it appears to be a transfer of the
> previous pages but there is still NO mention of '' Hey, we are
> transfering all of the info to WIKI '' ... quite confusing.
>
> Is the netroedge no more?
>
> As to volunteer, ... I will assist as much as I can. Fixing links is
> no brainer, usually, but I need the background here as to what got
> transferred, and what the design intention is. So if you know please
> point me to the '' Why we did this Wiki thing '' page or pages so I
> know the guidelines.
>
> I have some another project to work on today but will take a look now
> and see what is blaringly wrong(besides the fact that there is no
> news
> item of the switch to Wiki on the page).
>
> Regards, Ric
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* [lm-sensors] wiki pages - update
2006-08-26 19:10 [lm-sensors] wiki pages - update Rudolf Marek
2006-08-26 20:59 ` Ric
2006-08-26 22:39 ` Ric
@ 2006-08-27 12:17 ` Jean Delvare
2006-08-27 15:15 ` jim.cromie at gmail.com
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From: Jean Delvare @ 2006-08-27 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Hi Ric,
> I am DOA for now which is okay since I need to spend some quality time
> with the dremel and a SuperMicro SC750 case anyway.
Where "DOA" and "dremel" mean...?
> THE biggest problem is that there is not any registration function.
> Wikis are for collaborative efforts but apparently Trac does not have a
> simple registration function. All I saw was that the admin has to run
> an admin script to assign permisssions. I certainly hope that is robust
> enough to be automated, :).
We disabled that feature of trac on purpose, because it made it very
easy for spammers to create fake accounts and ruin our site. I agree it
pretty much voids the point of having a wiki, and we need to find a
solution to this problem.
> I cannot do anything until I can be registered with at least the link
> changing function.
>
> I stopped at the FAQ link(s). As more than likely the first place any
> user will look for info, if they look at all, ;),
I wish you were true...
> it needs to be available and,
It looks available enough to me, do you see a problem there?
> I suggest, editable. That presents a
> Copyright problem.
> Copyright (C) 1998 - 2005
> Frodo Looijaard,
> Philip Edelbrock,
> Mark D. Studebaker
> and
> Jean Delvare
>
> Since that *might* be considered as expired,
Copyrights expired after one year? In what country do you leave?
> authors' permissions s/b
> all that is needed to adjust it. I saw no 'license' for it; merely the
> copyright statement. There is no mention of license anywhere on the FAQ
> page.
>
> Is that doc supposed to fall under the GPL as an official part of the
> lm_sensors project?
The FAQ used to be (and actually still is) part the the lm_sensors tree
itself, so I'd say yes.
>
> The '' Licensed under GPL '' blurb is missing from the lm_sensors home
> page so maybe that sentence s/b added so we all know that code _and_
> documents are GPL'd, unless of course somebody wants to license
> documents under the GFDL,
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#FDL, or similar. ;)
Good point, we mention that our software is "OSI Certified open source
software", but we don't mention GPL. We should.
> AS for the FAQ, I suggest a temporary fix by making the Contents list
> correct and linked to the current FAQ page, as such:
> [code]
> Table of Contents
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw
>
> [FAQ/Chapter1 Chapter 1: Introduction and Overview]
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#Top
>
> [FAQ/Chapter2 Chapter 2: Sensor and Bus Basics]
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#toc_Basics
>
> [FAQ/Chapter3 Chapter 3: Installation and Management]
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#toc_Installation
>
> [FAQ/Chapter3 Chapter 4: Problems]
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#toc_Problems
>
> [FAQ/Chapter4 Chapter 5: How to Ask for Help]
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#toc_Help
>
> [FAQ/Chapter5 Chapter 6: How to Contribute]
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#toc_Contribute
>
> [FAQ/Appendix: Revision history of this document]
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#Document-Revisions
> [/code]
>
> That's pretty easy to do/change on the page and should work until such
> time that Registration is available and working securely.
Before doing that, we must take a decision about what the FAQ source
will be. Currently the FAQ source is a texi document, which is
converted to plain text and HTML and distributed with lm_sensors
itself. Rudolf Marek merged it into the wiki, so now we have two
versions. I will let him explain what are his plans for the future. We
certainly don't want to maintain two sources for the FAQ.
--
Jean Delvare
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From: jim.cromie at gmail.com @ 2006-08-27 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Jean Delvare wrote:
> Hi Ric,
>
>
>> I am DOA for now which is okay since I need to spend some quality time
>> with the dremel and a SuperMicro SC750 case anyway.
>>
>
> Where "DOA" and "dremel" mean...?
>
>
Dead on Arrival
Dremel is a hobbyist's hand drill, that hes apparently gonna use to
'customize' his mobo.
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From: Ric @ 2006-08-28 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Hi Jean:
Thanks for the feedback.
--- Jean Delvare <khali at linux-fr.org> wrote:
> Hi Ric,
>
> > I am DOA for now which is okay since I need to spend some quality
> time
> > with the dremel and a SuperMicro SC750 case anyway.
>
> Where "DOA" and "dremel" mean...?
DOA = dead on arrival; meaning I got there but not much I could do.
Dremel is a brand name for a high speed rotary tool used with
attachments for cutting, grinding, drilling, engraving, ... just about
anything the mind can conceive. Dremel is sold in Europe but there is
another brand name that I read is more popular.
The ( old but new to me ) Supermicro SC750A+ case is well built but not
designed for high efficiency and low-noise air cooling. My Dremel and
I made some adjustments. :)
> > THE biggest problem is that there is not any registration function.
>
> > Wikis are for collaborative efforts but apparently Trac does not
> have a
> > simple registration function. All I saw was that the admin has to
> run
> > an admin script to assign permisssions. I certainly hope that is
> robust
> > enough to be automated, :).
>
> We disabled that feature of trac on purpose, because it made it very
> easy for spammers to create fake accounts and ruin our site. I agree
> it
> pretty much voids the point of having a wiki, and we need to find a
> solution to this problem.
I am sorry that happened but agree that it is very important to have a
workable solution ASAP.
Somebody(webmaster/admin) might ask the Warewulf webmaster if they are
having any trouble with spam or anything else. The Warewulf OpenSource
project uses Trac and has a Register widget:
http://www.warewulf-cluster.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/register
...it works.
Or ask Trac folks ... I just happened to know that Warewulf uses Trac
so maybe they have a solution.
As you probably know, most sites have now gone to email verification
and also use the "Enter the Code and if you guess correctly you win a
properly completed registration ticket" widget to stop the automated
registrations. It must work since so many sites and forums use it.
Warewulf uses neither.
> > I cannot do anything until I can be registered with at least the
> link
> > changing function.
> >
> > I stopped at the FAQ link(s). As more than likely the first place
> any
> > user will look for info, if they look at all, ;),
>
> I wish you were true...
I know what you mean.
A little fix here and there will make it better. ...
> > it needs to be available and,
>
> It looks available enough to me, do you see a problem there?
What I meant by available, was available on _that_ page and not another
link to go to some other page or website.
But besides that, yes, problem: It is static, not Wiki.
To make it a better user document, the _user_ has to understand it and
contibute to it.
Also, FAQ = Frequently Asked Questions. When used for documentation, it
is no more than a list of items that ask a short, simple question and
have a short, simple answer attached. The key word there is "simple"
...
> > I suggest, editable. That presents a
> > Copyright problem.
> > Copyright (C) 1998 - 2005
> > Frodo Looijaard,
> > Philip Edelbrock,
> > Mark D. Studebaker
> > and
> > Jean Delvare
> >
> > Since that *might* be considered as expired,
>
> Copyrights expired after one year? In what country do you leave?
USA where we have copyrights, trademarks, digital rights, intellectual
rights, encryption export restrictions, ..., and patents on some of
the silliest things one has never seen or heard of before. And lots of
lawyers who challenge all of those things every day. :)
Copyrights have to be renewed is all I meant. If the authors chose not
to renew, then the copyright problem is not a problem.
> > authors' permissions s/b
> > all that is needed to adjust it. I saw no 'license' for it; merely
> the
> > copyright statement. There is no mention of license anywhere on the
> FAQ
> > page.
> >
> > Is that doc supposed to fall under the GPL as an official part of
> the
> > lm_sensors project?
>
> The FAQ used to be (and actually still is) part the the lm_sensors
> tree itself, so I'd say yes.
Well, good. :)
> > The '' Licensed under GPL '' blurb is missing from the lm_sensors
> home
> > page so maybe that sentence s/b added so we all know that code
> _and_
> > documents are GPL'd, unless of course somebody wants to license
> > documents under the GFDL,
> > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#FDL, or similar. ;)
>
> Good point, we mention that our software is "OSI Certified open
> source software", but we don't mention GPL. We should.
Glad you agree.
> > AS for the FAQ, I suggest a temporary fix by making the Contents
> list
> > correct and linked to the current FAQ page, as such:
> > [code]
> > Table of Contents
> >
> [snip]
>
http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/lm_sensors-FAQ.html?format=raw#Document-Revisions
> > [/code]
> >
> > That's pretty easy to do/change on the page and should work until
> such
> > time that Registration is available and working securely.
>
> Before doing that, we must take a decision about what the FAQ source
> will be. Currently the FAQ source is a texi document, which is
> converted to plain text and HTML and distributed with lm_sensors
> itself. Rudolf Marek merged it into the wiki, so now we have two
> versions. I will let him explain what are his plans for the future.
> We certainly don't want to maintain two sources for the FAQ.
>
> --
> Jean Delvare
Well, ( you and the other authors ) please consider that the current
"FAQ" should be called "Documentation" or "Manual" and a new "FAQ"
created for the WIKI that is just really, really, simple questions and
answers. ( the most pesky ones that drive you and the other dev's crazy
because they have been answered so many times and have such simple
answers )
...
Regards, Ric
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From: Rudolf Marek @ 2006-09-02 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Hi all,
Sorry for delay, this has been preempted by other tasks. I fixed the FAQ links,
thank you Ric. I also added a link to wiki installation wizard...
>
> Before doing that, we must take a decision about what the FAQ source
> will be. Currently the FAQ source is a texi document, which is
> converted to plain text and HTML and distributed with lm_sensors
> itself. Rudolf Marek merged it into the wiki, so now we have two
> versions. I will let him explain what are his plans for the future. We
> certainly don't want to maintain two sources for the FAQ.
>
My plan:
1) we need user/web managed accounts so people can edit the wiki pages. Axel
please how does this look like?
2) The FAQ could be shortened or newly created.
3) If we decide for some kind of wiki FAQ as the source, we may generate a html
snapshot and TXT version and ship it with lm-sensors release. I tried already
http://ssh.cz/~ruik/Chapter1 and it does not look bad.
Do we agree on this?
Regards
Rudolf
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From: Axel Thimm @ 2006-09-02 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Hi,
On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 11:05:22PM +0200, Rudolf Marek wrote:
> 1) we need user/web managed accounts so people can edit the wiki pages. Axel
> please how does this look like?
there was a private thread on this on May 31st between yourself, Jean
Delvare, Philip Edelbrock and myself which describes how to add new
i2c/lm-sensors/trac accounts (search for subject "anonymous and
milestones"). Any of these four has shell access and can
add/remove/modify these accounts.
--
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From: Rudolf Marek @ 2006-09-02 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Axel Thimm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 11:05:22PM +0200, Rudolf Marek wrote:
>> 1) we need user/web managed accounts so people can edit the wiki pages. Axel
>> please how does this look like?
>
> there was a private thread on this on May 31st between yourself, Jean
> Delvare, Philip Edelbrock and myself which describes how to add new
> i2c/lm-sensors/trac accounts (search for subject "anonymous and
> milestones"). Any of these four has shell access and can
> add/remove/modify these accounts.
Yep I know. What I wanted to ask was if the new trac have some plugin for this
so we can let users create wiki accounts on their own.
I know that this is still planed feature for trac so I was curious if there has
been any progress.
Rudolf
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From: Axel Thimm @ 2006-09-02 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:17:55PM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > THE biggest problem is that there is not any registration function.
> > Wikis are for collaborative efforts but apparently Trac does not have a
> > simple registration function. All I saw was that the admin has to run
> > an admin script to assign permisssions. I certainly hope that is robust
> > enough to be automated, :).
>
> We disabled that feature of trac on purpose, because it made it very
> easy for spammers to create fake accounts and ruin our site. I agree it
> pretty much voids the point of having a wiki, and we need to find a
> solution to this problem.
trac's wiki indeed has currently little support for
registration/authetication and anti-spam measures. But trac 0.10 is
almost done and there will be a couple of plugins helping out a bit
more.
We do use a pre 0.10 version for various reasons, but during
development the abi changes and the plugins don't much up well. And
for the stable trac version 0.9.x most of these plugins are not
available.
In short: For now we should use some workaround like creating accounts
manually, and once 0.10 and the plugins ship we can automate some
parts (until the spammers port auto-registration spam software for
trac's wiki ...).
--
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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From: Ric @ 2006-09-04 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Hi Axel, Rudolf, Jean et al:
Warewulf project uses Trac. They seem to be running okay with the
registration method they have. I just did login there and it still
works(from last weeks original).
Is the new user registration and login procedure there the same that
caused lm-sensors trouble?
Link: http://www.warewulf-cluster.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki
If not, perhaps lm-sensors should use it. WDYT?
Regards,
Ric
> 1. Re: wiki pages - update (Axel Thimm)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:33:07 +0200
> From: Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net>
> Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] wiki pages - update
> To: LM Sensors <lm-sensors at lm-sensors.org>
> Message-ID: <20060902213307.GS28210 at neu.nirvana>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:17:55PM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > > THE biggest problem is that there is not any registration
> function.
> > > Wikis are for collaborative efforts but apparently Trac does not
> have a
> > > simple registration function. All I saw was that the admin has to
> run
> > > an admin script to assign permisssions. I certainly hope that is
> robust
> > > enough to be automated, :).
> >
> > We disabled that feature of trac on purpose, because it made it
> very
> > easy for spammers to create fake accounts and ruin our site. I
> agree it
> > pretty much voids the point of having a wiki, and we need to find a
> > solution to this problem.
>
> trac's wiki indeed has currently little support for
> registration/authetication and anti-spam measures. But trac 0.10 is
> almost done and there will be a couple of plugins helping out a bit
> more.
>
> We do use a pre 0.10 version for various reasons, but during
> development the abi changes and the plugins don't much up well. And
> for the stable trac version 0.9.x most of these plugins are not
> available.
>
> In short: For now we should use some workaround like creating
> accounts
> manually, and once 0.10 and the plugins ship we can automate some
> parts (until the spammers port auto-registration spam software for
> trac's wiki ...).
> --
> Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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From: Axel Thimm @ 2006-09-04 8:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 01:05:16AM -0700, Ric wrote:
> Hi Axel, Rudolf, Jean et al:
>
> Warewulf project uses Trac. They seem to be running okay with the
> registration method they have. I just did login there and it still
> works(from last weeks original).
> Is the new user registration and login procedure there the same that
> caused lm-sensors trouble?
> Link: http://www.warewulf-cluster.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki
>
> If not, perhaps lm-sensors should use it. WDYT?
This trac instance is using a trac with several known vulnerabilities.
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/ChangeLog
So it's not a good example to follow.
Be patient, trac 0.10 is in beta and once this is released the various
plugins will follow-up. Until then the few accounts can be created
manually.
--
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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From: Ric @ 2006-09-04 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:05:22 +0200
> From: Rudolf Marek <r.marek at sh.cvut.cz>
> Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] wiki pages - update
> To: LM Sensors <lm-sensors at lm-sensors.org>
> Cc: Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net>, Ric <fhj52rags at yahoo.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for delay, this has been preempted by other tasks. I fixed the
> FAQ links,
> thank you Ric. I also added a link to wiki installation wizard...
>
I did not see a delay. Been busy too. :)
Glad it helped.
Axel setup the login permission and it works... for login.
None of the editing functions are available. (e.g., WIKI MODIFY)
... just let me know when the "Trac Permissions" are adjusted. We'll
go from there.
Regards, Ric
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> > Before doing that, we must take a decision about what the FAQ
> source
> > will be. Currently the FAQ source is a texi document, which is
> > converted to plain text and HTML and distributed with lm_sensors
> > itself. Rudolf Marek merged it into the wiki, so now we have two
> > versions. I will let him explain what are his plans for the future.
> We
> > certainly don't want to maintain two sources for the FAQ.
> >
>
> My plan:
> 1) we need user/web managed accounts so people can edit the wiki
> pages. Axel please how does this look like?
> 2) The FAQ could be shortened or newly created.
> 3) If we decide for some kind of wiki FAQ as the source, we may
> generate a html
> snapshot and TXT version and ship it with lm-sensors release. I tried
> already
> http://ssh.cz/~ruik/Chapter1 and it does not look bad.
>
> Do we agree on this?
> Regards
> Rudolf
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From: Axel Thimm @ 2006-09-04 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 07:43:33AM -0700, Ric wrote:
> Axel setup the login permission and it works... for login.
> None of the editing functions are available. (e.g., WIKI MODIFY)
> ... just let me know when the "Trac Permissions" are adjusted. We'll
> go from there.
Oops, done.
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