From: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>,
prasanna@in.ibm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>, Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>,
Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com>,
Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
William Cohen <wcohen@redhat.com>,
ltt-dev@shafik.org, systemtap@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Linux Kernel Markers
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:09:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060920010943.GA28097@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1158710925.32598.120.camel@localhost.localdomain>
* Alan Cox (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) wrote:
> Ar Maw, 2006-09-19 am 13:54 -0400, ysgrifennodd Mathieu Desnoyers:
> > Very good idea.. However, overwriting the second instruction with a jump could
> > be dangerous on preemptible and SMP kernels, because we never know if a thread
> > has an IP in any of its contexts that would return exactly at the middle of the
> > jump.
>
> No: on x86 it is the *same* case for all of these even writing an int3.
> One byte or a megabyte,
>
> You MUST ensure that every CPU executes a serializing instruction before
> it hits code that was modified by another processor. Otherwise you get
> CPU errata and the CPU produces results which vendors like to describe
> as "undefined".
>
> Thus you have to serialize, and if you are serializing it really doesn't
> matter if you write a byte, a paragraph or a page.
>
Hi Alan,
What I am trying to address is not "code patching with INT3", but "code patching
with a 5 bytes JMP". The errata you point to applies to both and kprobes
mechanism already takes care of this with the serialization method you describe.
However, there is a supplemental problem with the fact that a JMP is 5 bytes,
not 1. You are right about saying that overwriting code with any amount of
*int3* does not matter, but what happens when you put one or more 5 bytes long
jumps instead ?
Think about it : if you are replacing 1-2-3 or 4 bytes long instruction and,
unluckily, on any stack of any thread preempted from any CPU, you have a
current instruction pointer pointing at the middle of the region where you want
to put the 5 bytes JMP, the processor will likely trigger an illegal
instruction fault when this particular thread is scheduled back.
Mathieu
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-20 1:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-18 23:45 [PATCH] Linux Kernel Markers Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-19 0:41 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-19 1:10 ` Dave Jones
2006-09-19 8:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-19 8:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-19 15:11 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-09-19 15:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-20 11:19 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-19 15:46 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-19 16:04 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-19 16:39 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-19 16:41 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-19 6:38 ` S. P. Prasanna
2006-09-19 17:17 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-19 7:05 ` S. P. Prasanna
2006-09-19 18:02 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-19 21:04 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-20 13:27 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2006-09-20 17:21 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-20 17:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-20 17:35 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-20 18:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-20 18:22 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-20 18:50 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-20 19:22 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-20 19:43 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-20 19:40 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-20 19:58 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-20 18:25 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-20 17:41 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-19 17:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-19 18:01 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-19 18:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-20 0:08 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 0:52 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-20 10:44 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 23:00 ` Richard J Moore
2006-09-23 15:34 ` score-boarding [was Re: [PATCH] Linux Kernel Markers] Hugh Dickins
2006-09-26 8:43 ` Richard J Moore
2006-09-20 1:08 ` [PATCH] Linux Kernel Markers S. P. Prasanna
2006-09-20 8:18 ` Richard J Moore
2006-09-20 10:32 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 11:50 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-20 13:45 ` Richard J Moore
2006-09-22 12:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-20 1:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2006-09-19 19:13 ` Vara Prasad
2006-09-19 19:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-19 19:24 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-19 22:27 ` Satoshi Oshima
2006-09-19 19:26 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-19 9:30 ` S. P. Prasanna
2006-09-19 20:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-20 11:00 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2006-09-20 9:39 ` Helge Hafting
2006-09-20 10:30 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 13:23 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2006-09-19 16:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-19 16:41 ` Richard J Moore
2006-09-19 16:49 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-19 16:52 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-19 17:02 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-19 16:06 ` Vara Prasad
2006-09-19 16:14 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-19 17:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-19 16:23 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-19 16:17 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-19 16:29 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-19 16:55 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-19 17:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-20 17:33 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-19 15:21 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-20 13:20 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2006-09-20 13:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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