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From: Denis Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] typechecking for get_unaligned/put_unaligned
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:52:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200610191852.50967.vda.linux@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061018060500.GI29920@ftp.linux.org.uk>

On Wednesday 18 October 2006 08:05, Al Viro wrote:
> That's the point, actually - apparently we have several high-impact includes
> that are easy to sever and that are really worth being severed.  The part
> that was not aproiri obvious:
> 	* there are clusters of headers around certain dependency
> counts.
> 	* such clusters tend to have leaders - header that pulls the
> rest and even though other headers are apparently independently included,
> all such includes end up being hidden by includes of the leader.
> 	* gaps between the clusters are pretty large.
> 	* dependency graph *on* *clusters* is worth being studied; includes
> of cluster leader from cluster around slightly smaller dependency count
> are prime targets for severing.
> 
> That is the new part here.  Not just "dependency graph is a mess and ought
> to be cleaned up" - _that_ is neither new nor particulary useful...

Well, logically for any given .config a set of all kernel header files
define a set of typedefs, structs, functions and so on.
If only we can read and parse them just once, and then reuse
already parsed information when we compile each .c file -
that will give you the biggest time savings.

gcc has some facility for that ("precompiled headers")
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Precompiled-Headers.html

I don't know how hard it will be to adapt build system to using that
and there is a danger that using this thing will increase
recompile times when you change just a few CONFIG_XXXs.
--
vda

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-19 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-17  0:50 [RFC] typechecking for get_unaligned/put_unaligned Al Viro
2006-10-17  1:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-17  4:37   ` Al Viro
2006-10-17 15:12     ` Bogus deps checking (was Re: [RFC] typechecking for get_unaligned/put_unaligned) Ray Lehtiniemi
2006-10-17 15:24     ` [RFC] typechecking for get_unaligned/put_unaligned Linus Torvalds
2006-10-18  4:40       ` dealing with excessive includes Al Viro
2006-10-18  9:19         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-10-18  9:31           ` Al Viro
2006-10-18 10:00             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-10-18 17:42               ` Al Viro
2006-10-18 21:48                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-10-18 15:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-18 15:13               ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-18 16:06               ` Al Viro
2006-10-18 16:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-18 17:44                   ` Al Viro
2006-10-19 16:23                   ` Al Viro
2006-10-19 18:24                   ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-10-20  0:53                   ` Al Viro
2006-10-20  0:57                     ` Al Viro
2006-10-20 12:43                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-20  0:58                     ` Al Viro
2006-10-20  0:59                     ` Al Viro
2006-10-20  1:02                     ` Al Viro
2006-10-20  4:35                     ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-20  9:26                       ` Stefan Richter
2006-10-20 16:13                         ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-20 17:51                           ` Stefan Richter
2006-10-22 17:58                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-10-22 22:59                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23  8:29                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-10-23 16:09                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-23 16:13                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-10-23 16:31                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-23 16:52                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-10-23 17:05                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-23  0:31                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-23  0:42                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23  1:08                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-23  1:31                                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23  1:36                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-23  1:41                                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23  8:34                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-10-23  1:48                                       ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-23  1:49                                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-23  6:34                                         ` Stefan Richter
2006-10-18 16:15               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-18 16:21                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-18  5:42     ` [RFC] typechecking for get_unaligned/put_unaligned Dave Jones
2006-10-18  6:05       ` Al Viro
2006-10-19 16:52         ` Denis Vlasenko [this message]
2006-10-19 16:58           ` Al Viro
2006-10-17  9:04 ` David Howells
2006-10-17 15:28   ` Linus Torvalds

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