* Overwriting bare repositories' master
@ 2006-10-29 21:03 Sylvain Beucler
2006-10-29 21:57 ` Sylvain Beucler
2006-10-29 21:59 ` Junio C Hamano
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sylvain Beucler @ 2006-10-29 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: git; +Cc: savannah-hackers-public
Hello,
I'm trying to setup a git hosting facility, such as repo.or.cz. The
facility provides a pre-initialized git repository only accessible
through git-shell.
The goal is to minimise the system admins' intervention, and I have a
question about a branch 'overwriting'. For example, let's say the user
makes an initial import to refs/heads/master for testing purposes,
then wants to start over and import the real project. Can he put a
wholy different git repository in place of the other one, at the same
destination?
I tried and I found something that doesn't seem to follow the
documentation:
repo_one$ git push Beuc@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/srv/git/sources/administration.git \
master:refs/heads/master
# [OK]
repo_two$ git push --force Beuc@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/srv/git/administration.git \
+refs/heads/master:refs/heads/master
updating 'refs/heads/master'
from ee3bda653dfabaf0f78f2a9977abec180f2b19dc
to c9a726b610bafc82142a16af80b83d28375ca619
Generating pack...
Done counting 0 objects.
Total 0, written 0 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0)
Unpacking 0 objects
error: denying non-fast forward; you should pull first
From man git-push:
"If the optional plus + is used, the remote ref is updated even if it
does not result in a fast forward update."
This also makes one wonder how the 'pu' git branch is updated.
One the one hand, this means that sysadmin intervention is required to
reset such a repository, which is bad. One the other hand, this is
also a security because users cannot erase history, even if there a
cron job to prune&pack the git repositories, which is good.
Is this by design? Or should it work?
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* Re: Overwriting bare repositories' master
2006-10-29 21:03 Overwriting bare repositories' master Sylvain Beucler
@ 2006-10-29 21:57 ` Sylvain Beucler
2006-10-29 22:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-29 21:59 ` Junio C Hamano
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sylvain Beucler @ 2006-10-29 21:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: git; +Cc: savannah-hackers-public
ShadeHawk at #git noticed that this does not apply for a local
directory.
I reproduced the two successive push-es both to a local git
repository, and then to a remote git-shell'd one, and indeed, it works
locally but it is rejected remotely ("error: denying non-fast forward;
you should pull first").
So this is probably caused by git-shell restrictions.
Feature? :)
--
Sylvain
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 10:03:33PM +0100, Sylvain Beucler wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to setup a git hosting facility, such as repo.or.cz. The
> facility provides a pre-initialized git repository only accessible
> through git-shell.
>
> The goal is to minimise the system admins' intervention, and I have a
> question about a branch 'overwriting'. For example, let's say the user
> makes an initial import to refs/heads/master for testing purposes,
> then wants to start over and import the real project. Can he put a
> wholy different git repository in place of the other one, at the same
> destination?
>
> I tried and I found something that doesn't seem to follow the
> documentation:
>
> repo_one$ git push Beuc@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/srv/git/sources/administration.git \
> master:refs/heads/master
> # [OK]
> repo_two$ git push --force Beuc@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/srv/git/administration.git \
> +refs/heads/master:refs/heads/master
> updating 'refs/heads/master'
> from ee3bda653dfabaf0f78f2a9977abec180f2b19dc
> to c9a726b610bafc82142a16af80b83d28375ca619
> Generating pack...
> Done counting 0 objects.
> Total 0, written 0 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0)
> Unpacking 0 objects
> error: denying non-fast forward; you should pull first
>
> From man git-push:
> "If the optional plus + is used, the remote ref is updated even if it
> does not result in a fast forward update."
>
> This also makes one wonder how the 'pu' git branch is updated.
>
>
> One the one hand, this means that sysadmin intervention is required to
> reset such a repository, which is bad. One the other hand, this is
> also a security because users cannot erase history, even if there a
> cron job to prune&pack the git repositories, which is good.
>
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* Re: Overwriting bare repositories' master
2006-10-29 21:03 Overwriting bare repositories' master Sylvain Beucler
2006-10-29 21:57 ` Sylvain Beucler
@ 2006-10-29 21:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-29 22:21 ` Sylvain Beucler
2006-10-29 22:43 ` Johannes Schindelin
1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Junio C Hamano @ 2006-10-29 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sylvain Beucler; +Cc: git, Johannes Schindelin
Sylvain Beucler <beuc@gnu.org> writes:
> I tried and I found something that doesn't seem to follow the
> documentation:
>
> repo_one$ git push Beuc@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/srv/git/sources/administration.git \
> master:refs/heads/master
> # [OK]
> repo_two$ git push --force Beuc@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/srv/git/administration.git \
> +refs/heads/master:refs/heads/master
> updating 'refs/heads/master'
> from ee3bda653dfabaf0f78f2a9977abec180f2b19dc
> to c9a726b610bafc82142a16af80b83d28375ca619
> Generating pack...
> Done counting 0 objects.
> Total 0, written 0 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0)
> Unpacking 0 objects
> error: denying non-fast forward; you should pull first
>
> From man git-push:
> "If the optional plus + is used, the remote ref is updated even if it
> does not result in a fast forward update."
>
> This also makes one wonder how the 'pu' git branch is updated.
>
> One the one hand, this means that sysadmin intervention is required to
> reset such a repository, which is bad. One the other hand, this is
> also a security because users cannot erase history, even if there a
> cron job to prune&pack the git repositories, which is good.
>
> Is this by design? Or should it work?
I suspect (because I cannot see your .git/config in the
repository; which would say "[core] sharedrepository = 1" if my
suspicion is correct) that this is fairly new heavyhanded safety
valve added by the list around mid September, with this:
commit 11031d7e9f34f6a20ff4a4bd4fa3e5e3c0024a57
Author: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Date: Thu Sep 21 01:07:54 2006 +0200
add receive.denyNonFastforwards config variable
If receive.denyNonFastforwards is set to true,
git-receive-pack will deny non fast-forwards, i.e. forced
updates. Most notably, a push to a repository which has that
flag set will fail.
As a first user, 'git-init-db --shared' sets this flag,
since in a shared setup, you are most unlikely to want
forced pushes to succeed.
The reasoning is exactly as you guessed.
I think the intention of the patch is that the repository
administrators are expected to either (1) adjust the
non-fast-forwarding branch to fast-forward (by reset --hard to
an ancestor of what you are trying to push into), (2)
temporarily disable the safety value by editing .git/config, or
(3) instead of pushing into it, force fetching into it from the
repository machine.
It is doing what it was designed to do. It is a different issue
if the design is good, but rewinding the public branch is not
something even a repository administrator should take lightly
and not expected to happen often (except in cases like yours
where the administrator is tipping his toe into the water), so I
think overall the current behaviour is an acceptable balance
between safety and convenience.
My public repository is not shared (only I can push into it) so
this is a non-issue for my 'pu' branch.
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* Re: Overwriting bare repositories' master
2006-10-29 21:57 ` Sylvain Beucler
@ 2006-10-29 22:05 ` Junio C Hamano
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Junio C Hamano @ 2006-10-29 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sylvain Beucler; +Cc: git
Sylvain Beucler <beuc@gnu.org> writes:
> ShadeHawk at #git noticed that this does not apply for a local
> directory.
Do not top-post please.
> I reproduced the two successive push-es both to a local git
> repository, and then to a remote git-shell'd one, and indeed, it works
> locally but it is rejected remotely ("error: denying non-fast forward;
> you should pull first").
>
> So this is probably caused by git-shell restrictions.
I do not think so. Have you checked your config to see if you
have receive.denyNonFastforwards set?
I suspect Jakub (ShadeHawk)'s test does not have it.
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* Re: Overwriting bare repositories' master
2006-10-29 21:59 ` Junio C Hamano
@ 2006-10-29 22:21 ` Sylvain Beucler
2006-10-29 22:43 ` Johannes Schindelin
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sylvain Beucler @ 2006-10-29 22:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Junio C Hamano; +Cc: git, Johannes Schindelin
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 01:59:42PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Sylvain Beucler <beuc@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > I tried and I found something that doesn't seem to follow the
> > documentation:
> >
> > repo_one$ git push Beuc@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/srv/git/sources/administration.git \
> > master:refs/heads/master
> > # [OK]
> > repo_two$ git push --force Beuc@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/srv/git/administration.git \
> > +refs/heads/master:refs/heads/master
> > updating 'refs/heads/master'
> > from ee3bda653dfabaf0f78f2a9977abec180f2b19dc
> > to c9a726b610bafc82142a16af80b83d28375ca619
> > Generating pack...
> > Done counting 0 objects.
> > Total 0, written 0 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0)
> > Unpacking 0 objects
> > error: denying non-fast forward; you should pull first
> >
> > From man git-push:
> > "If the optional plus + is used, the remote ref is updated even if it
> > does not result in a fast forward update."
> >
> > This also makes one wonder how the 'pu' git branch is updated.
> >
> > One the one hand, this means that sysadmin intervention is required to
> > reset such a repository, which is bad. One the other hand, this is
> > also a security because users cannot erase history, even if there a
> > cron job to prune&pack the git repositories, which is good.
> >
> > Is this by design? Or should it work?
>
> I suspect (because I cannot see your .git/config in the
> repository; which would say "[core] sharedrepository = 1" if my
> suspicion is correct) that this is fairly new heavyhanded safety
> valve added by the list around mid September, with this:
>
> commit 11031d7e9f34f6a20ff4a4bd4fa3e5e3c0024a57
> Author: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
> Date: Thu Sep 21 01:07:54 2006 +0200
>
> add receive.denyNonFastforwards config variable
>
> If receive.denyNonFastforwards is set to true,
> git-receive-pack will deny non fast-forwards, i.e. forced
> updates. Most notably, a push to a repository which has that
> flag set will fail.
>
> As a first user, 'git-init-db --shared' sets this flag,
> since in a shared setup, you are most unlikely to want
> forced pushes to succeed.
>
> The reasoning is exactly as you guessed.
>
> I think the intention of the patch is that the repository
> administrators are expected to either (1) adjust the
> non-fast-forwarding branch to fast-forward (by reset --hard to
> an ancestor of what you are trying to push into), (2)
> temporarily disable the safety value by editing .git/config, or
> (3) instead of pushing into it, force fetching into it from the
> repository machine.
>
> It is doing what it was designed to do. It is a different issue
> if the design is good, but rewinding the public branch is not
> something even a repository administrator should take lightly
> and not expected to happen often (except in cases like yours
> where the administrator is tipping his toe into the water), so I
> think overall the current behaviour is an acceptable balance
> between safety and convenience.
>
> My public repository is not shared (only I can push into it) so
> this is a non-issue for my 'pu' branch.
You perfectly guessed the situation.
Setting denyNonFastforwards=false allowed the forced push to succeed.
For reference the config file was
(http://cvs.sv.gnu.org/r/test.git/config):
[core]
repositoryformatversion = 0
filemode = true
sharedrepository = 1
[receive]
denyNonFastforwards = true
This sounds like a sound design :)
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* Re: Overwriting bare repositories' master
2006-10-29 21:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-29 22:21 ` Sylvain Beucler
@ 2006-10-29 22:43 ` Johannes Schindelin
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2006-10-29 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Junio C Hamano; +Cc: Sylvain Beucler, git
Hi,
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Sylvain Beucler <beuc@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > I tried and I found something that doesn't seem to follow the
> > documentation:
> >
> > [...]
> > error: denying non-fast forward; you should pull first
> >
> > From man git-push:
> > "If the optional plus + is used, the remote ref is updated even if it
> > does not result in a fast forward update."
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Is this by design? Or should it work?
>
> I suspect (because I cannot see your .git/config in the
> repository; which would say "[core] sharedrepository = 1" if my
> suspicion is correct) that this is fairly new heavyhanded safety
> valve added by the list around mid September, with this:
>
> commit 11031d7e9f34f6a20ff4a4bd4fa3e5e3c0024a57
> Author: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
> Date: Thu Sep 21 01:07:54 2006 +0200
>
> add receive.denyNonFastforwards config variable
> [...]
I still think the forced updates of pu still lose too many useful bits in
git's history.
Having said that, if receive.denyNonFastforwards indeed is the culprit:
git-shell allows you to do something like this:
ssh user@git.gnu.org \
"git-repo-config --unset receive.denyNonFastforwards"
After that, forced pushes should succeed. By the same account,
ssh user@git.gnu.org \
"git-repo-config --bool receive.denyNonFastforwards"
should tell you if Junio's suggestion is right (in this case, it will
output "true").
Hth,
Dscho
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