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From: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
To: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: madwifi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, lwn@lwn.net,
	mcgrof@gmail.com, david.kimdon@devicescape.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: SFLC helps developers assess ar5k (enabling free Atheros HAL)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:21:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061115192054.GA10009@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200611151942.14596.mb@bu3sch.de>

On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 07:42:14PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote:

> Now that it seems to be ok to use these openbsd sources, should I port
> them to my driver framework?
> I looked over the ar5k code and, well, I don't like it. ;)
> I don't really like having a HAL. I'd rather prefer a "real" driver
> without that HAL obfuscation.

I don't think anyone likes the HAL-based architecture.  I don't think
we will accept a HAL-based driver into the upstream kernel.

The point is that the ar5k is now safe to be used as a reference and
source of information (and code, as appropriate) without copyright FUD.
Distilling that information into a proper Linux driver is work that
remains to be done.

John
-- 
John W. Linville
linville@tuxdriver.com

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From: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
To: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	madwifi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, lwn@lwn.net
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: SFLC helps developers assess ar5k (enabling free Atheros HAL)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:21:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061115192054.GA10009@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200611151942.14596.mb@bu3sch.de>

On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 07:42:14PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote:

> Now that it seems to be ok to use these openbsd sources, should I port
> them to my driver framework?
> I looked over the ar5k code and, well, I don't like it. ;)
> I don't really like having a HAL. I'd rather prefer a "real" driver
> without that HAL obfuscation.

I don't think anyone likes the HAL-based architecture.  I don't think
we will accept a HAL-based driver into the upstream kernel.

The point is that the ar5k is now safe to be used as a reference and
source of information (and code, as appropriate) without copyright FUD.
Distilling that information into a proper Linux driver is work that
remains to be done.

John
-- 
John W. Linville
linville@tuxdriver.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-15 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-15  3:10 ANNOUNCE: SFLC helps developers assess ar5k (enabling free Atheros HAL) John W. Linville
2006-11-15  3:10 ` John W. Linville
2006-11-15 18:42 ` Michael Buesch
2006-11-15 19:21   ` John W. Linville [this message]
2006-11-15 19:21     ` John W. Linville
2006-11-15 19:26     ` Michael Buesch
2006-11-15 19:26       ` Michael Buesch
2006-11-15 19:35       ` [Madwifi-devel] " Ben Greear
2006-11-15 19:35         ` Ben Greear
2006-11-16 14:18       ` Jochen Friedrich
2006-11-16 14:56         ` [Madwifi-devel] " Michael Renzmann
2006-11-16 14:56           ` Michael Renzmann
2006-11-15 19:26     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-15 19:26       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-15 19:39     ` [Madwifi-devel] " Pavel Roskin
2006-11-15 20:02       ` Michael Buesch
2006-11-16  5:37         ` Michael Renzmann
2006-11-16 10:07           ` Nick Kossifidis
2006-11-16 11:55             ` Michael Renzmann
2006-11-16 11:55               ` Michael Renzmann
2006-11-15 23:28       ` [Madwifi-devel] ANNOUNCE: SFLC helps developers assessar5k " David Kimdon
2006-11-16 14:50       ` [Madwifi-devel] ANNOUNCE: SFLC helps developers assess ar5k " Dan Williams

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