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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [Cluster-devel] Re: [PATCH 2.6.19-rc5-mm2] fs/dlm: fix recursive dependency in Kconfig
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:12:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061121001233.GC5200@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061120153528.5ace6089.randy.dunlap@oracle.com>

On Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 03:35:28PM -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:45:09 +0100 Adrian Bunk wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 12:45:11PM +0100, Stefan Richter wrote:
> > >...
> > > Anyway. Whatever you chose to do (or already have chosen to do) in
> > > fs/dlm/Kconfig, keep in mind that the "select" keyword is presently only
> > > poorly supported by the various .config generators and that it forces UI
> > > considerations into the Kconfig files which should better not be
> > > overloaded with UI issues. Or in other words: It is rather easy to write
> > > correct and well-supported Kconfig files if you stick with "depend on",
> > > but you get into trouble fast with generous usage of "select".
> > 
> > For variables like NET or INET it doesn't matter in practice whether you 
> > use "select" or "depends on". But for other variables it makes it really 
> > hard for users to enable an option if you use "depends on".
> 
> Doing a "select" NET or INET enables a ton of code, which IMO
> should be done explicitly, not covertly by a select.

It seems you misunderstood my statement.

Let me try to phrase it differently:

A "depends on INET" is no problem for users since virtually everyone has 
INET enabled.

But a "depends on IP_SCTP" or a "depends on I2C_ALGOBIT" is a 
dependency that might create serious problems for users.

> ~Randy

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed



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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
Cc: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	Patrick Caulfield <pcaulfie@redhat.com>,
	cluster-devel@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.19-rc5-mm2] fs/dlm: fix recursive dependency in Kconfig
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:12:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061121001233.GC5200@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061120153528.5ace6089.randy.dunlap@oracle.com>

On Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 03:35:28PM -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:45:09 +0100 Adrian Bunk wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 12:45:11PM +0100, Stefan Richter wrote:
> > >...
> > > Anyway. Whatever you chose to do (or already have chosen to do) in
> > > fs/dlm/Kconfig, keep in mind that the "select" keyword is presently only
> > > poorly supported by the various .config generators and that it forces UI
> > > considerations into the Kconfig files which should better not be
> > > overloaded with UI issues. Or in other words: It is rather easy to write
> > > correct and well-supported Kconfig files if you stick with "depend on",
> > > but you get into trouble fast with generous usage of "select".
> > 
> > For variables like NET or INET it doesn't matter in practice whether you 
> > use "select" or "depends on". But for other variables it makes it really 
> > hard for users to enable an option if you use "depends on".
> 
> Doing a "select" NET or INET enables a ton of code, which IMO
> should be done explicitly, not covertly by a select.

It seems you misunderstood my statement.

Let me try to phrase it differently:

A "depends on INET" is no problem for users since virtually everyone has 
INET enabled.

But a "depends on IP_SCTP" or a "depends on I2C_ALGOBIT" is a 
dependency that might create serious problems for users.

> ~Randy

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-21  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-18 15:52 [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 2.6.19-rc5-mm2] fs/dlm: fix recursive dependency in Kconfig Stefan Richter
2006-11-18 15:52 ` Stefan Richter
2006-11-20  9:48 ` [Cluster-devel] " Patrick Caulfield
2006-11-20  9:48   ` Patrick Caulfield
2006-11-20 11:45   ` [Cluster-devel] " Stefan Richter
2006-11-20 11:45     ` Stefan Richter
2006-11-20 17:45     ` [Cluster-devel] " Adrian Bunk
2006-11-20 17:45       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-20 23:35       ` [Cluster-devel] " Randy Dunlap
2006-11-20 23:35         ` Randy Dunlap
2006-11-21  0:12         ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-11-21  0:12           ` Adrian Bunk

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