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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>, "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Boot failure with ext2 and initrds
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:16:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061129181602.GD23101@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061129013922.053482f9.akpm@osdl.org>

On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 01:39:22AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:20:24 +0000
> Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > What I'm looking for is confirmation of the semantics of
> > find_next_zero_bit()
> 
> What are the existing semantics?  I see no documentation in any of the
> architectures I've looked at.  That's my point.
> 
> >From a quick read of fs/ext2/balloc.c
> 
> 	ext2_find_next_zero_bit(base, size, offset)
> 
> appears to expect that base is the start of the memory buffer, size is the
> number of bits at *base and offset is the bit at which to start the search,
> relative to base.  If a zero bit is found it will return the offset of that
> bit relative to base.  It will return some number greater than `size' if no
> zero-bit was found.  

Thank you for taking the time to agree with my analysis of x86 and
confirm that what ARM implements is also what is expected - that's
all that I was after.  The reason I was after it was because you'd
said in the message I originally replied to:

| yes, the `size' arg to find_next_zero_bit() represents the number of
| bits to scan at `offset'.

which is entirely different from my understanding of what is required of
this function.  Hence the confusion caused and the need to clear up
that confusion.

> Whether that's how all the implementors interpreted it is anyone's guess. 
> Presumably the architectures all do roughly the same thing.

ARM does exactly the same as x86, since x86 was the only architecture
which existed in Linux when it was originally implemented.

> > <extremely frustrated>
> 
> Well likewise.  It appears that nobody (and about 20 people have
> implemented these things) could be bothered getting off ass and
> documenting the pathetic thing.

Back in those days it very much was "read the source, luke" and when
porting the kernel that meant the x86 code.  Consider the lack of
documentation a case of just following the agreed convention at the
time.

We've since now moved on to a more mature attitude towards documentation,
and decided upon a format that it should take.  So yes, it would be nice
if someone would document the entire set of kernel functions which
architectures are expected to provide.  That'll probably be a full time
job for someone though, and probably needs someone to be paid to do it.
Or are the janitor folks up for it?

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-29 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 201+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-14  9:41 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-11-14 11:11 ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Jiri Slaby
2006-11-14 11:54   ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Jiri Slaby
2006-11-14 11:31 ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Reuben Farrelly
2006-11-14 17:00   ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Gautham R Shenoy
2006-11-14 20:58     ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Mattia Dongili
2006-11-15 10:34       ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Gautham R Shenoy
2006-11-15 10:42         ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Reuben Farrelly
2006-11-14 12:46 ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Mariusz Kozlowski
2006-11-14 13:07   ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Mariusz Kozlowski
2006-11-14 16:41   ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-11-14 17:09     ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-11-14 19:23       ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Mariusz Kozlowski
2006-11-14 13:50 ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Eric Dumazet
2006-11-14 18:33 ` [Cluster-devel] [-mm patch] fix the DLM dependencies Adrian Bunk
2006-11-14 18:33   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-14 22:56   ` [Cluster-devel] [-mm patch] fix the DLM dependencies, part 2 Adrian Bunk
2006-11-14 22:56     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-15 10:11     ` [Cluster-devel] " Patrick Caulfield
2006-11-15 10:11       ` Patrick Caulfield
2006-11-15 10:23       ` [Cluster-devel] " Adrian Bunk
2006-11-15 10:23         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-14 18:49 ` Boot failure with ext2 and initrds Mel Gorman
2006-11-14 19:08   ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-14 19:11   ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-14 19:21     ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-14 20:20       ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-14 20:30         ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-14 19:31     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-14 21:18       ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-14 21:19         ` Martin Bligh
2006-11-15 14:17         ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-15 15:32           ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-11-15 15:56             ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-16  5:45           ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16  6:39             ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16  6:55             ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-16  7:22               ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16  8:49                 ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-16  9:13                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16  9:37                     ` Alex Tomas
2006-11-16  9:48                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16  9:49                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16 16:26                     ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-16 20:15                     ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-16 21:27                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-20 16:19                         ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-20 20:54                           ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-21  1:36                             ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-21  1:47                           ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-21  5:39                             ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-22  0:43                               ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-28 17:38                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-28 17:40                                   ` [PATCH 1/6] ext2 balloc: fix _with_rsv freeze Hugh Dickins
2006-11-28 19:26                                     ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-28 20:07                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-29  0:42                                         ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  4:14                                     ` [PATCH 6/12] " Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  4:15                                     ` [PATCH 12/12] ext3 " Mingming Cao
2006-11-28 17:40                                   ` [PATCH 2/6] ext2 balloc: reset windowsz when full Hugh Dickins
2006-11-28 19:36                                     ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  4:14                                     ` [PATCH 2/12] ext3 balloc: fix off-by-one against grp_goal Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  4:15                                     ` [PATCH 8/12] ext4 " Mingming Cao
2006-11-28 17:41                                   ` [PATCH 3/6] ext2 balloc: fix off-by-one against rsv_end Hugh Dickins
2006-11-28 19:42                                     ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-28 17:42                                   ` [PATCH 4/6] ext2 balloc: fix off-by-one against grp_goal Hugh Dickins
2006-11-28 23:30                                     ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  4:13                                     ` [PATCH 1/12] ext3 balloc: reset windowsz when full Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  5:46                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-29  4:14                                     ` [PATCH 3/12] ext3 balloc: fix off-by-one against rsv_end Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  4:14                                     ` [PATCH 7/12] ext4 balloc: reset windowsz when full Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  4:15                                     ` [PATCH 9/12] ext4 balloc: fix off-by-one against rsv_end Mingming Cao
2006-11-28 17:43                                   ` [PATCH 5/6] ext2 balloc: say rb_entry not list_entry Hugh Dickins
2006-11-28 23:30                                     ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  4:14                                     ` [PATCH 4/12] ext3 " Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  4:15                                     ` [PATCH 10/12] ext4 " Mingming Cao
2006-11-28 17:44                                   ` [PATCH 6/6] ext2 balloc: use io_error label Hugh Dickins
2006-11-28 23:31                                     ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  4:14                                     ` [PATCH 5/12] ext3 " Mingming Cao
2006-11-29  4:15                                     ` [PATCH 11/12] ext4 " Mingming Cao
2006-11-28 21:04                                   ` Boot failure with ext2 and initrds Mingming Cao
2006-11-28 22:33                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-28 23:38                                       ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-16 12:34                 ` Russell King
2006-11-25 14:59                   ` Russell King
2006-11-29  7:40                     ` Russell King
2006-11-29  8:30                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-29  9:20                         ` Russell King
2006-11-29  9:39                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-29 18:16                             ` Russell King [this message]
2006-11-14 21:19       ` Mel Gorman
2006-11-15  0:25       ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-11-15  0:58         ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-15 23:54           ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-11-16  9:05       ` Mingming Cao
2006-11-14 20:02 ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2: no help text for FAULT_INJECTION Adrian Bunk
2006-11-14 21:12   ` [PATCH -mm] CONFIG_FAULT_INJECTION help text Akinobu Mita
2006-11-14 21:15     ` [PATCH -mm] failslab: remove __GFP_HIGHMEM filtering Akinobu Mita
2006-11-14 22:56 ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2: warnings in MODPOST and later Adrian Bunk
2006-11-14 23:09   ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-14 23:09     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-15  7:42     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-14 23:13 ` and in www.kernel.org page? Re: 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-11-15 23:16 ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2: paravirt X86_PAE=y compile error Adrian Bunk
2006-11-15 23:36   ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-15 23:36     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16  1:30     ` Zachary Amsden
2006-11-16  2:27       ` Chris Wright
2006-11-16  2:27         ` Chris Wright
2006-11-16  7:05         ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-28 23:36     ` Randy Dunlap
2006-11-28 23:36       ` Randy Dunlap
2006-11-16 12:16 ` [-mm patch] remove arch/i386/kernel/time_hpet.c:hpet_reenable() Adrian Bunk
2006-11-16 17:17 ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Mattia Dongili
2006-11-16 18:29   ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Stefan Richter
2006-11-16 20:39     ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Mattia Dongili
2006-11-16 22:50       ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Stefan Richter
2006-11-17  7:16         ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Mattia Dongili
2006-11-17 15:02           ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 Stefan Richter
2006-11-17 15:24             ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 (Oops in class_device_remove_attrs during nodemgr_remove_host) Stefan Richter
2006-11-18  9:47               ` Greg KH
2006-11-18 11:27                 ` Stefan Richter
2006-11-18 17:07                   ` Stefan Richter
2006-11-18 21:45                     ` Stefan Richter
2006-11-18 22:08                       ` Stefan Richter
2006-11-19  8:56                       ` Mattia Dongili
2006-11-19 16:22                       ` ohci1394 oops bisected [was Re: 2.6.19-rc5-mm2 (Oops in class_device_remove_attrs during nodemgr_remove_host)] Mattia Dongili
2006-11-19 17:13                         ` Stefan Richter
2006-11-19 20:33                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-19 21:01                             ` Stefan Richter
2006-11-24  8:41                               ` Greg KH
2006-11-24 17:13                                 ` Stefan Richter
2006-11-19 17:14                         ` Gene Heskett
2006-11-19 18:07                           ` Kino segfault (was Re: ohci1394 oops bisected) Stefan Richter
2006-11-19 20:11                             ` Gene Heskett
2006-11-17  1:19 ` [-mm patch] crypto/xcbc.c: make some code static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17  2:44   ` Herbert Xu
2006-11-17  1:19 ` [-mm patch] make drivers/acpi/bay.c:drive_bays static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17  1:19 ` [-mm patch] make drivers/base/core.c:setup_parent() static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17  1:19 ` [-mm patch] make geode_aes_crypt() static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17 12:42 ` -mm: cx88-blackbird.c: unused code re-added Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17 13:53   ` [v4l-dvb-maintainer] " Michael Krufky
2006-11-17 14:13   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2006-11-17 14:21 ` [-mm patch] drivers/media/video/cafe_ccic.c: make a function static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17 14:21 ` [-mm patch] remove drivers/pci/search.c:pci_find_device_reverse() Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17 14:32   ` Alan Cox
2006-11-18  0:06     ` [2.6 patch] mark pci_find_device() as __deprecated Adrian Bunk
2006-11-18  1:42       ` Alan
2006-11-19  9:47       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-19  9:52         ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-11-19 10:01           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-19 14:06           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-19 15:24             ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-11-19 15:49               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-19 16:50               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-19 14:04         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-19 14:13           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-19 14:27             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17 19:54   ` [-mm patch] remove drivers/pci/search.c:pci_find_device_reverse() Andrew Morton
2006-11-17 20:33     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17 22:16     ` Alan Cox
2006-11-19  9:44     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-17 17:02 ` [-mm patch] make net/core/skbuff.c:skb_over_panic() static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-21  0:55   ` David Miller
2006-11-21  1:37     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-21  1:40       ` David Miller
2006-11-21  1:39     ` David Miller
2006-11-17 17:02 ` [-mm patch] security/slim/slm_main.c: make 2 functions static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17 23:58 ` [-mm patch] make sound/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c:stac92xx_dmic_labels[] static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17 23:58   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-20 16:44   ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-20 16:44     ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2006-11-17 23:58 ` [-mm patch] make mm/thrash.c:global_faults static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17 23:59 ` [RFC: -mm patch] remove kernel/timer.c:wall_jiffies Adrian Bunk
2006-11-18  7:00   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-17 23:59 ` [RFC: -mm patch] make kernel/timer.c:__next_timer_interrupt() static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-18  6:58   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-20  2:23 ` [-mm patch] drivers/scsi/scsi_scan.c: make 2 functions static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-20  2:34   ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-11-20  2:24 ` [Cluster-devel] [-mm patch] fs/dlm/lowcomms-tcp.c: remove 2 functions Adrian Bunk
2006-11-20  2:24   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-20  2:24 ` [-mm patch] make ext2_get_blocks() static Adrian Bunk
2006-11-20  2:24 ` [-mm patch] fs/reiser4/: possible cleanups Adrian Bunk
2006-11-21 18:37 ` -mm: please drop reiser4-export-handle_ra_miss.patch Adrian Bunk
2006-11-21 19:42 ` [-mm patch] unexport {,__}remove_from_page_cache Adrian Bunk
2006-11-22  3:23 ` 2.6.19-rc5-mm2: suspend related BLOCK=n compile error Adrian Bunk
2006-11-22  3:34   ` Randy Dunlap
2006-11-22  3:34     ` Randy Dunlap
2006-11-22 11:20     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-22  4:17 ` [-mm patch] CACHEFILES must depend on PROC_FS Adrian Bunk
2006-11-22  4:35   ` Randy Dunlap
2006-11-22  4:17 ` [-mm patch] fs/fscache/main.c: cleanups Adrian Bunk
2006-11-22  4:38 ` [-mm patch] drivers/mtd/nand/rtc_from4.c: use lib/bitrev.c Adrian Bunk
2006-11-22  4:38   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-28 22:19   ` David Woodhouse
2006-11-28 22:49     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-28 22:49       ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-28 22:52       ` David Woodhouse
2006-11-28 22:52         ` David Woodhouse
2006-11-29  0:09         ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-29  0:09           ` Andrew Morton

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