From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>
Cc: s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk, torvalds@osdl.org,
76306.1226@compuserve.com, akpm@osdl.org, bunk@stusta.de,
greg@kroah.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: kernel + gcc 4.1 = several problems
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 06:55:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070103055502.GP24090@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200701030212.l032CDXe015365@harpo.it.uu.se>
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 03:12:13AM +0100, Mikael Pettersson wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 17:43:00 -0800 (PST), Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > The suggestions I've had so far which I have not yet tried:
> > >
> > > - Select a different x86 CPU in the config.
> > > - Unfortunately the C3-2 flags seem to simply tell GCC
> > > to schedule for ppro (like i686) and enabled MMX and SSE
> > > - Probably useless
> >
> > Actually, try this one. Try using something that doesn't like "cmov".
> > Maybe the C3-2 simply has some internal cmov bugginess.
>
> That's a good suggestion. Earlier C3s didn't have cmov so it's
> not entirely unlikely that cmov in C3-2 is broken in some cases.
Agreed! When I developped the cmov emulator, I used an early C3 for the
tests (well, a "Samuel2" to be precise), because it did not report "cmov"
in its flags. I first thought "wow, my emulator is amazingly fast!" because
it took something like 50 cycles to do cmovne %eax,%ebx.
Then I realized that this processor performed cmov itself between
registers, and only triggered the invalid opcode when one of the operand
was a memory reference. And this time, for a hard-coded instruction, it
was really slow...
For this reason, I would not be surprized at all that there would be some
buggy behaviour in the cmov right there. Maybe a bug in the decoder unit
making it skip a byte when the next instruction in the prefetch queue is
a cmov affecting same registers... When vendors can do dirty things such
as executing unsupported instructions, we can expect anything from them.
> Configuring for P5MMX or 486 should be good safe alternatives.
I generally use the P5MMX target for such processors.
> /Mikael
Regards,
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-03 5:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-03 2:12 kernel + gcc 4.1 = several problems Mikael Pettersson
2007-01-03 2:20 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-05 15:53 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-05 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-05 16:19 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-05 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07 0:36 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-07 0:57 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-03 5:55 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2007-01-03 10:29 ` Alan
2007-01-03 10:32 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2007-01-03 11:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-03 12:44 ` Alan
2007-01-03 13:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-01-03 13:58 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-01-03 14:28 ` Alan
2007-01-03 16:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 16:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 17:01 ` l.genoni
2007-01-03 17:45 ` Tim Schmielau
2007-01-03 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 17:06 ` l.genoni
2007-01-03 17:53 ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-01-03 19:47 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-03 20:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 21:48 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-03 22:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 21:44 ` Thomas Sailer
2007-01-03 22:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-04 3:08 ` Zou, Nanhai
2007-01-04 15:34 ` Linus Torvalds
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-04 7:11 Albert Cahalan
2007-01-04 16:43 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 17:04 ` Albert Cahalan
2007-01-04 17:24 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 17:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-04 18:53 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 19:10 ` Al Viro
2007-01-05 17:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-06 8:23 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 17:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-04 18:34 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 22:02 ` Geert Bosch
2007-01-07 4:25 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-07 4:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07 5:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-07 15:10 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-26 22:05 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-01-04 18:08 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-12-20 14:21 Oops in 2.6.19.1 Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-30 16:59 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-31 16:27 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-31 16:55 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-02 21:10 ` kernel + gcc 4.1 = several problems Adrian Bunk
2007-01-02 21:56 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-02 22:06 ` D. Hazelton
2007-01-02 23:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-02 23:41 ` D. Hazelton
2007-01-03 2:05 ` Horst H. von Brand
2007-01-02 22:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-02 23:18 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-03 1:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-02 22:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-02 23:09 ` David Rientjes
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