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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Grzegorz Kulewski <kangur@polcom.net>
Cc: Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>,
	s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk, torvalds@osdl.org,
	76306.1226@compuserve.com, akpm@osdl.org, bunk@stusta.de,
	greg@kroah.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: kernel + gcc 4.1 = several problems
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 06:51:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <459B98C9.1040309@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0701031128420.14187@alpha.polcom.net>

Grzegorz Kulewski wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Alan wrote:
>> The proper fix for all of this mess is to fix the gcc compiler suite to
>> actually generate i686 code when told to use i686. CMOV is an optional
>> i686 extension which gcc uses without checking. In early PIV days it made
>> sense but on modern processors CMOV is so pointless the bug should be
>> fixed. At that point an i686 kernel would contain i686 instructions and
>> actually run on all i686 processors ending all the i586 pain for most
>> users and distributions.
> 
> Could you explain why CMOV is pointless now? Are there any benchmarks 
> proving that?

In theory modern processors should have no trouble converting a 
test/move sequence into the same uops generated by a cmov instruction, 
for one.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-03 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-03  2:12 kernel + gcc 4.1 = several problems Mikael Pettersson
2007-01-03  2:20 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-05 15:53   ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-05 16:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-05 16:19       ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-05 16:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07  0:36           ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-07  0:57             ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-03  5:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-01-03 10:29 ` Alan
2007-01-03 10:32   ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2007-01-03 11:51     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-01-03 12:44     ` Alan
2007-01-03 13:32       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-01-03 13:58         ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-01-03 14:28         ` Alan
2007-01-03 16:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 16:03     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 17:01       ` l.genoni
2007-01-03 17:45         ` Tim Schmielau
2007-01-03 20:24           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 17:06       ` l.genoni
2007-01-03 17:53       ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-01-03 19:47       ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-03 20:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 21:48           ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-03 22:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 21:44       ` Thomas Sailer
2007-01-03 22:08         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-04  3:08       ` Zou, Nanhai
2007-01-04 15:34         ` Linus Torvalds
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-04  7:11 Albert Cahalan
2007-01-04 16:43 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 17:04   ` Albert Cahalan
2007-01-04 17:24     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 17:47       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-04 18:53         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 19:10         ` Al Viro
2007-01-05 17:17       ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-06  8:23         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 17:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-04 18:34       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 22:02         ` Geert Bosch
2007-01-07  4:25       ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-07  4:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07  5:26           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-07 15:10         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-26 22:05           ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-01-04 18:08     ` Andreas Schwab
2006-12-20 14:21 Oops in 2.6.19.1 Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-30 16:59 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-31 16:27   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-31 16:55     ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-02 21:10       ` kernel + gcc 4.1 = several problems Adrian Bunk
2007-01-02 21:56         ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-02 22:06           ` D. Hazelton
2007-01-02 23:24             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-02 23:41               ` D. Hazelton
2007-01-03  2:05                 ` Horst H. von Brand
2007-01-02 22:13           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-02 23:18             ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-03  1:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-02 22:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-02 23:09           ` David Rientjes

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