From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Alexey Starikovskiy <alexey.y.starikovskiy@intel.com>,
Ben Dooks <ben@simtec.co.uk>,
linux-arm@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:49:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070320224919.GS3545@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703201644.59046.david-b@pacbell.net>
Hi!
> > Almost all users of pm_ops only support mem sleep, don't check in .valid
> > and don't reject any others in .prepare so users can be confused if they
> > check /sys/power/state, especially when new states are ever added.
>
> By the way ... as a note to implementors, it should be trivial to
> implement a basic "standby" state that suspends drivers, disables
> many clocks, and probably puts DRAM into self-refresh mode, but
> uses only the wait-for-interrupt CPU lowpower mode.
>
> A key difference between that and STR would then be that STR does
> extra magic, like switching the CPU to a slow clock and then turning
> off all the clocks that drive the chip "fast". Also, that because
> it disables so many clocks, the SOC probably can't support as many
> types of wakeup events in STR.
>
> I mention this because implementing such a "standby" mode means
> that all the platform drivers can start to make their suspend()
> and resume() code behave, and userspace tools can be put into
> place, before all that tricky/painful STR work gets done. Also,
> because driver wakeup events in such a "standby" mode tend to be
> a lot more powerful ... pretty much how a driver using runtime
> PM models would work (instead of user-visible "goto sleep").
Actually, I second that. "standby" that spins down disks to protect
them for transport is very useful feature, even if it does not save
much power. (Okay, that's notebooks and high-end-zauruses with
spinning disks, but...)
Pavel
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-03-20 1:58 ` [PATCH] rework pm_ops pm_disk_modes foo Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 8:46 ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 9:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 9:36 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 9:43 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 9:46 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 10:17 ` [PATCH] add firmware disk state and clean up Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 10:25 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 10:45 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 11:02 ` [PATCH] remove firmware disk mode Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 13:15 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 11:06 ` [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 13:16 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 23:44 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 22:49 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-03-21 21:01 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-21 22:07 ` David Brownell
2007-03-21 22:36 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-21 22:57 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21 23:25 ` David Brownell
2007-03-21 23:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 10:03 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-22 17:10 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 17:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-22 18:13 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 18:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-21 23:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-20 22:59 ` [PATCH] add firmware disk state and clean up David Brownell
2007-03-20 22:09 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 23:31 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 11:48 ` [PATCH] rework pm_ops pm_disk_modes foo Johannes Berg
2007-03-22 13:44 [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody Scott E. Preece
2007-03-22 18:29 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 19:26 ` Tony Lindgren
2007-03-22 21:16 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 13:15 ` tony
2007-03-23 18:25 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 21:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 21:43 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 21:56 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 22:42 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 22:56 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 23:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 23:55 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 1:14 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 13:17 ` tony
2007-03-23 13:35 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 14:52 ` tony
2007-03-23 15:17 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 18:51 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 19:19 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 18:29 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 19:21 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 20:11 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 6:46 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-23 16:15 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 21:08 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-24 0:52 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 13:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-23 17:57 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 20:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24 0:01 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-24 0:54 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 20:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24 0:41 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-24 20:49 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 21:01 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-25 1:02 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24 22:19 ` David Brownell
2007-03-25 10:26 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-25 15:20 ` David Brownell
2007-03-25 16:23 ` Jim Gettys
2007-03-25 16:55 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 18:18 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-24 3:08 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-24 20:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 23:29 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 23:44 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 23:45 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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