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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Cc: alexey.y.starikovskiy@intel.com, dirk.behme@de.bosch.com,
	pavel@ucw.cz, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	johannes@sipsolutions.net, nico@cam.org, ben@simtec.co.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:44:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703221644.22760.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0703230026500.11411@poirot.grange>

On Thursday 22 March 2007 4:29 pm, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, David Brownell wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday 22 March 2007 3:10 pm, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > 
> > > Well, I think the only clear distinction between the STR and "standby" is the
> > > necessity to go through a boot-like procedure in order to resume from the
> > > former.
> > 
> > So what's a "boot-like procedure"?   Ten instructions?  A hundred?
> > A thousand?  Ten thousand?  Does it take a certain amount of time?
> > Does it perform certain operations?  Does it involve going through
> > ACPI (or APM)?  If so, what about the fact that ACPI (or APM) are
> > involved in "standby" resumes too (on platforms using them)?
> 
> Ok, on ARM / (at least embedded) ppc I would say - going through reset 
> vector / toggling reset pin.

However, I would also say that it makes plenty of sense to talk about
an STR state that doesn't involve such a reset.


> Do these terms still make sense on  hyper-threaded-cored-celled CPUs?

"Reset", sure ... though there are lots of types of reset.
And "boot-like procedure" is inherently vague though.

- Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-22 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-22 13:44 [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody Scott E. Preece
2007-03-22 18:29 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 19:26   ` Tony Lindgren
2007-03-22 21:16     ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 13:15       ` tony
2007-03-23 18:25         ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 21:37     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 21:27   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 21:43     ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 21:56       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 22:42         ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 22:10       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 22:56         ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 23:21           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 23:55             ` David Brownell
2007-03-23  1:14               ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 13:17                 ` tony
2007-03-23 13:35                   ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 14:52                     ` tony
2007-03-23 15:17                       ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 18:51                         ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 19:19                           ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 18:29                 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 19:21                   ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 20:11                     ` David Brownell
2007-03-23  6:46               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-23 16:15                 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 21:08                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-24  0:52                     ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 13:43               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-23 17:57                 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 20:39                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24  0:01                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-24  0:54                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 20:01                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24  0:41                     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-24 20:49                     ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 21:01                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-25  1:02                         ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 21:36                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24 22:19                         ` David Brownell
2007-03-25 10:26                       ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-25 15:20                         ` David Brownell
2007-03-25 16:23                           ` Jim Gettys
2007-03-25 16:55                             ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 18:18                 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-24  3:08                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-24 20:04                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 23:29           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 23:44             ` David Brownell [this message]
2007-03-22 23:45             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-20  1:58 [PATCH] rework pm_ops pm_disk_modes foo Johannes Berg
2007-03-20  8:46 ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Berg
2007-03-20  9:31   ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20  9:36     ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-20  9:43       ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 10:17         ` [PATCH] add firmware disk state and clean up Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 10:25           ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 11:06             ` [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 13:16               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 23:44               ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 22:49                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21 21:01                 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-21 22:07                   ` David Brownell
2007-03-21 22:36                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-21 22:57                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21 23:25                         ` David Brownell
2007-03-21 23:31                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 10:03                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-22 17:10                             ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 17:18                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-22 18:13                                 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 18:18                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-21 23:32                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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